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Title: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2011, 02:23:33 AM Guy is a huge fish playing 7% 3bet (which is low for non HUers) folds to 50% of 3bets (I'm 3betting 22%) folds vs 50% of cb's (I'm cbetting 46%) and folds 47% of the time on the turn. He has c/r 67% of my cbets and has shown flush draws/straight draws on the times it has got to showdown.
Full Tilt Poker Game #29004701965: Table Poe (heads up) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:18:16 ET - 2011/03/13 Seat 1: pads1161 ($243.30) Seat 2: buckakers ($315.50) buckakers posts the small blind of $1 pads1161 posts the big blind of $2 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pads1161 [Jc Ac] buckakers raises to $6 pads1161 raises to $22 buckakers calls $16 *** FLOP *** [Qc Jd 9c] pads1161 bets $24 buckakers calls $24 *** TURN *** [Qc Jd 9c] [7d] pads1161 checks buckakers bets $50 pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act pads1161 has requested TIME pads1161 calls $50 *** RIVER *** [Qc Jd 9c 7d] [2c] pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act pads1161 has requested TIME pads1161 bets $147.30, and is all in buckakers folds Uncalled bet of $147.30 returned to pads1161 pads1161 mucks pads1161 wins the pot ($191.50) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $192 | Rake $0.50 Board: [Qc Jd 9c 7d 2c] Seat 1: pads1161 (big blind) collected ($191.50), mucked Seat 2: buckakers (small blind) folded on the River Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: Rupert on March 14, 2011, 02:40:48 AM Quote folds vs 50% of cb's Quote He has c/r 67% of my cbets ?? Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: Rupert on March 14, 2011, 02:42:02 AM vpip and pfr are gonna be useful too so we can decide whether or not to 3 bet ajs
Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2011, 02:43:43 AM Quote folds vs 50% of cb's Quote He has c/r 67% of my cbets ?? Weird, checked hud again and sais same thing. :S:S maybe some 3bet pots or something skewed it. Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: Rupert on March 14, 2011, 02:44:33 AM are u looking at c/r flop or raise cbet?
Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2011, 02:44:55 AM vpip and pfr are gonna be useful too so we can decide whether or not to 3 bet ajs opened 84% pots from btn and I have seen him defend a9 and a4s in 3bet pots. Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2011, 02:45:31 AM are u looking at c/r flop or raise cbet? Turn and river perhaps misplayed I think, I'm fine with flop. Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: cambridgealex on March 14, 2011, 02:46:25 AM why are we not betting the turn? As played you have to just shove I think.
Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: Rupert on March 14, 2011, 02:48:07 AM are u looking at c/r flop or raise cbet? Turn and river perhaps misplayed I think, I'm fine with flop. i meant which stat are you looking at Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2011, 02:53:54 AM are u looking at c/r flop or raise cbet? 50% ftcb 67% c/r flop Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: Rupert on March 14, 2011, 03:12:49 AM whats his raise cbet, c/r % on flop isnt a very useful stat
Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: Rupert on March 14, 2011, 03:14:29 AM either way just bet/call the turn you have good equity whatever he does
Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: SuuPRlim on March 14, 2011, 04:10:46 AM either way just bet/call the turn you have good equity whatever he does yup no need to complex things up here imo Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: TheFallen on March 14, 2011, 06:26:09 AM am always 3betting here but prob do everything else differently.
aggression stats wud be good but if he has c.r such a high % of the time then he's probably a bluffer so let him bluff the river. he might even folded a hand he may have value bet with now. Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: doubleup on March 14, 2011, 11:07:04 AM Quote folds vs 50% of cb's Quote He has c/r 67% of my cbets ?? Weird, checked hud again and sais same thing. :S:S maybe some 3bet pots or something skewed it. think the apparent discrepancy might be that he only gets the opportunity to c raise when he is oop, whereas the fold to c bet stat is all positions. Title: Re: 200NLHU multiple streets perhaps misplayed Post by: WotRTheChances on March 29, 2011, 01:44:42 PM I'm either bet-calling the turn, or, if i've check-called, i am check-shoving the river. There are several ways to play the hand, i'm not convinced any are significantly better than others. I am probably leading the turn more often than not, but balancing by check-calling those hands isnt bad.
Opening the river like that isn't something i'd be doing a lot. I think villain has a fairly wide draw-heavy range on the turn, most of which has missed (unless FvF cooler), so shoving just removes the option of getting another street of value vs his missed draw/air range. Villain probably looks you up with 2-pairs, straights and sets only. AQ/KQ is unlikely in this spot given flop action, so yer bet-call turn or check-call, check-call. |