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Title: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 07:30:29 PM
APAT Online Champs - $55 buyin

204 runners, Top 30 paid, 45 left. Avg about 44k.
Blinds 1k 2k

Folded to mid pos, who is on 57k - raises to 6.5k
Next to act goes All in for 20k odd - (quite actively pushing twice in the last few hands, no show.)
Next to act goes all in for 20k odd

Me - I look down to  Kh Ks and I'm sat with 45k.

What to do?


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: outragous76 on March 21, 2011, 07:42:35 PM
im sincerley hoping that folding is not in your head here?

So therefore you mean flat or rejam?

Rejam!



Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: strak33 on March 21, 2011, 08:04:24 PM
Just get it in.

If you lose to AQ yeah its not nice


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
No idea how long to keep these things running for - and fairly obv what to do...I guess.

I did jam for 45k...the original raiser also went all in for the rest of his 57k

Me - KK
Org - AA
1st all in - AK
2nd all in - QQ

Q on flop took it.

Any arguement for folding, with the expectation that one of them " Must" have AA???

Only thing that troubled me, was if is one of those situ where u fold KK??



Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: GreekStein on March 21, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: outragous76 on March 21, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs ever pre flop in a tourney

fyp


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: outragous76 on March 21, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
No idea how long to keep these things running for - and fairly obv what to do...I guess.

I did jam for 45k...the original raiser also went all in for the rest of his 57k

Me - KK
Org - AA
1st all in - AK
2nd all in - QQ

Q on flop took it.

Any arguement for folding, with the expectation that one of them " Must" have AA???

Only thing that troubled me, was if is one of those situ where u fold KK??



fwiw you kind of answer your own question too  - if the original raiser folds here, you get KK in against QQ and AK pre


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: celtic on March 21, 2011, 09:41:19 PM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs ever pre flop in a tourney

fyp

the sicilian did. He had 10 bigs back, but was 100% the guy had aces....


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: GreekStein on March 21, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs ever pre flop in a tourney

fyp

the sicilian did. He had 10 bigs back, but was 100% the guy had aces....

That's quite a high percentage.


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: George2Loose on March 21, 2011, 09:45:11 PM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs ever pre flop in a tourney

fyp

the sicilian did. He had 10 bigs back, but was 100% the guy had aces....

5 bet him for info?


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: celtic on March 21, 2011, 10:19:59 PM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs ever pre flop in a tourney

fyp

the sicilian did. He had 10 bigs back, but was 100% the guy had aces....

That's quite a high percentage.

very high indeed.


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: George2Loose on March 21, 2011, 11:25:53 PM
Also Waz this is a classic case of being results orientated. Had the original raiser folded and you held would this post ever have been made?


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: AlexMartin on March 22, 2011, 12:45:00 AM
You're thinking too hard about a spot that's really very simple for us.

We can't fold kk with 22.5bbs ever pre flop in a tourney

fyp

the sicilian did. He had 10 bigs back, but was 100% the guy had aces....



madddd rubs


Title: Re: Opinions please - My 1st PHA on blonde so be gentle - but honest!
Post by: Waz1892 on March 22, 2011, 09:12:19 PM
Also Waz this is a classic case of being results orientated. Had the original raiser folded and you held would this post ever have been made?

Very true.  To ask a silly question therefore, how do you "avoid" being results orientated? 

Experiance of such things?
Number of hands played, thus situ happens more and more

trying to understand the concept better...