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Title: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: pleno1 on March 30, 2011, 10:04:20 PM
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 Full Tilt Poker Game #29481919236: Table Swiftly Tilting (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:21:53 ET - 2011/03/30
Seat 1: wwkcd ($456.90)
Seat 2: pads1161 ($210.55)
Seat 3: Scheibsi ($110.20)
Seat 4: Lady_Sharrow ($484.30)
Seat 5: Ildjarn ($259.35)
Seat 6: StarvingStar ($261.50)
StarvingStar posts the small blind of $1
wwkcd posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [Ac Tc]
pads1161 raises to $6
Scheibsi folds
Lady_Sharrow folds
Ildjarn calls $6
StarvingStar folds
wwkcd folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 3d Td]
pads1161 checks
Ildjarn bets $10
pads1161 calls $10
*** TURN *** [Jh 3d Td] [As]
pads1161 checks
Ildjarn bets $24
pads1161 calls $24
*** RIVER *** [Jh 3d Td As] [5h]
pads1161 checks
Ildjarn bets $125


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: outragous76 on March 30, 2011, 10:59:14 PM
you have the top of ur folding range

probs call due to diamonds and he could be spazzing with JT


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: Sack it off on March 30, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
fold


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: Rupert on March 31, 2011, 02:40:20 AM
we gotta call i think we are right at the top of our range here, not sure what top of our folding range means we literally have the best hand he would ever expect us to have when we check the flop


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: cambridgealex on March 31, 2011, 02:41:51 AM
call


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: pleno1 on March 31, 2011, 07:52:47 AM
what does my range look like when i raise pre, c/c flop then c/c turn?


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: outragous76 on March 31, 2011, 12:51:45 PM
we gotta call i think we are right at the top of our range here, not sure what top of our folding range means we literally have the best hand he would ever expect us to have when we check the flop

i meant its the best hand we can have that we would consider folding in rush

if he has 33 its jsut cold


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: pleno1 on March 31, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
Before I say this please dont think im classing myself as great or even good. But I really think folding in spots like this instead of chalking things off as coolers seperate the great from the bad. I can make heros when I want ofc.   ;)

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter (http://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-hand-converter/):

Play hand (http://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-hand-converter/handreplayer/forum/641022/)

$1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em (2 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$671.50:///////;SB (Hero)$368.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:d, K:c.
BB raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $22.00, BB calls $16.00.

Flop: ($44) 4:s, T:d, J:d (2 players)
Hero bets $24.00, BB calls $24.00.

Turn: ($92) 5:d (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $62.00, Hero calls $62.00.

River: ($216) 2:s (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $563.50, Hero calls $260.00.

Final Pot: $1039.5.
Results follow:

BB shows high card jack(9:s 8:s).
Hero shows high card king(Q:d K:c).

BB wins with high card jack(9:s 8:s).
Hero wins with high card king(Q:d K:c).


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: Rupert on March 31, 2011, 02:34:13 PM
congratulations, he just got you to fold your entire range


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: pleno1 on March 31, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
congratulations, he just got you to fold your entire range

Yeah my play is super exploitable I know that. So then we call? But my hand is a bluffcatcher right? So I have to call with what? JQ?


Title: Re: NL200 RUSH Facing another overshove
Post by: Rupert on March 31, 2011, 03:01:40 PM
exploitatively it could well be a fold.  but this is rush poker, and folding the very top of your range is not something you really wanna do.  if they were really causing trouble a good adjustment is to work in a c/r range as well as occasionally c/c sets and other strong made but on this board you're always just gonna have a dirty decision to make.  our hand is probably strong enough to cbet here as well but c/c'ing is never gonna be too bad to induce some 1 or 2 barrel bluffs