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Holloway reckons 39 points will be enough

thoughts?

39 seems fair, teams down there are averging virtually a point a game, certainly don't think it'll be more than a point either way.

the predictor says 41 pts = safety, 40pts will see you relegated. Seems high but when it was predicting 34pts last year we thought that was low.

Blackpool are toast, I've never left that opinion even when they were 9 points clear.

Hopefully Wigan too.

I said last night theyre doing a Hull City.  Got off to a great start then all downhill.  Any team with James Beattie up front is gonna have problems  imo

38 will keep you up imo

Wigan wolves and Blackpool to go down, all will finish with less than 40 points.

burn

care to wager?

I think any team that goes down with 40 points+ will be unlucky.

Im on blackburn at 16s to go, that point at the emirates hurt, but i don't see them winning many. I'm pretty sure wigan's atrocious goal difference will do for them even if they get close, west ham should be able to score enough to stay up, think the other 2 spots are between blackpool, wolves and blackburn. Wld love to see the seasiders stay up tbh, but have a feeling they won't.

It's v unlikely, but i'd take great pleasure in seeing villa go down

Neh think I'm in the minority and the line is generally a bit higher but I've just always said a point a game is enough.

Blackburn won't go down, jokers.

40pts will see you safe. 39pts will see down.

3-1 with bookies to do so, care to offer larger seeing as you are so certain?

I think Wigan is the only team I would'nt really mind seeing the back of, other than that I havent a clue who I'd like to see  go down.

The Premiership would be a much much better place if they relegated all teams beginning with B or W.

you have to be joking. the only interesting thing in a ridic dull season has been blackpool mixing it up with the big boys

I think Blackpool will stay up, they have a favourable fixture schedule.  5 homes and 2 aways and 4 of the homes are Bolton, Stoke, Wigan and Newcastle which should give them a fighting chance.....plus they have the best midfielder in the premiership!

Agree with the sentiment that its enjoyable watching Blackpool roughing up the big boys, Don't agree with the dull comment though, Surely with Top teams getting beat more and more regularly this season can only have made it more interesting and not dull?

meh, there've been a few interesting results but the actual football has mostly bored me. then again the prem has bored me for quite a few years now. blackpool have really livened it up

I pray Blackpool go down. Admittedly because I have a decent price on it happening in a 4fold (of which 2 are already in bar the shouting).

There are casualties in any war - I'd sacrifice Blackpool so that Bolton, Birmingham, Wigan and West Brom GTFO and stop stinking up the division.

Teams beginning with Q FTW.

Bolton have been really good and entertaining since Coyle took over imo.

Bolton getting relegated would make Vernon Kay cry, and that's good enough for me.

I've never really wished for a team to go down as I always hope Sunderland finish 17th, but I'd love to see Wigan go down, they're an absolute joke. GTFO the Prem.

Great prediction Jose

Come wigan - relegate these FA sponsored old boys club


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now come on and get out of it Wigan!

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gonna be a great final day

gtfo Wigan. 

Squeaky bum time.

hope wigan go down. my mate f4f has a lot riding on it, massive sweat and hope he is at the grand prix next weekend

Man Utd v Blackpool, 16:00
Stoke v Wigan, 16:00
Tottenham v Birmingham, 16:00
Wolverhampton v Blackburn, 16:00

15    Blackburn    -14    40
16    Wolverhampton    -19    40
17    Birmingham   -20    39
18    Blackpool    -21   39
19    Wigan    -22    39


who is going down now?

I fancy Wigan to get something at Stoke, now

Nervous week for Birmingham, I think

I'd like to see Blackpool somehow pull it off but cant see it, really hope Stoke beat Wigan. Really hope Wigan don't get away with it on goal difference but I can see Spurs giving Birmingham a beating.

Blackpool, could survive by losing, gonna be interesting.

I can see Man U making the gd at least -3 worse than it currently is, going to be a fun day for a neutral.

Brum are going I reckon.

Dont think so mate

We (man U) tend not to turn upon the last day when its wrapped up. Will be a 2nd team (for CL rest and to make sure of some medals), and  Blackpool will be well up for it. I can easily see this game being a draw.

Id like to see Birmingham go down myself, as Wigan are my 2nd team and I like Holloway/Blackpool spirit

Lets hope Spurs really want 5th

You didn't think your second string will be out to impress with CL final coming up ?

Yes, but they are playing for bench spots. Also a team which plays together less frequently usually plays wiht less cohesion

Finally, and much more importantly, as shown by Wigan, playing for "place on the bench" is not really tangible and you never get that true release of giving everything, playing for you premiership survival is absolute, and you can rest assured Blackpool will be firing with everything

Fergie will fix it for a guarenteed 6 points next season.....maybe

Obv, the fact they cant defend though, may be a problem, hope I'm wrong. As long as Wigan are down I'm not too fussed, sorry there your second time but I've said a few times I'd like to see them go, of the 5, Blackpool are the ones I'd most like to stay up. I wonder where Fergy will be playing, I'd say up front with Berbatov would be his best position.

Missed all the fancy prices about Blackpool because they were all with 2 bob firms u cant get on with- they are 5s currently and if i had to guess id say they will get shorter

No probs mate - I know Wigan dont have many supporters. Thats where I was born and I used to go to the old Spingfield Park back in the old 4 Division days.

I think for team like Wigan, relegation could be doom thou - lets hope not eh!

Like to see Wigan stay up coz if they go down reckon they will be there or there abouts in the cship next season.

Like to see Blackpool go down because I think the current side - Adam would struggle to make top half in cship next season.

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.

I'd like to see Blackpool stay up because they will then safely book one of the relegation spots for next season (along with Norwich) meaning QPR less likely to go straight back down.

If I am Fergy I don't pick one player who I'd even want on the bench for CL final.

And I think that's completely fair, and that there shouldn't be a fine for it.
There is so much hidden luck in football, and Blackpool would just be benefitting from fortunate circumstances.

 Blackburn already have- it's incredibly lucky to have a situation where the champions equalise against you, and then want to play out a draw.

For non United fans, it will just be incredibly tilting in the next title race where Ferguson whinges about another team's integrity or effort level. (ala Nottingham Forest and Leeds in 1996, which was the whole reason behind's Keegan's famous rant)

Plus the fact Blackpool and Wolves both put out weaker sides in games they didn't think they could win which similarly could've effected the title race.

+1.

 Which is why the FA's £25,000 fine is ridiculous, and typical of their complete wishy-washiness, and inability to make a clear decision. They need to realise

1) That's about 1% of the way to being a deterrent.

2) If they think it is a deterrent, do they seriously want to hurt an English team's chances in a Champions League final?

3) If they want to take it that far, surely they have to take it the whole way? Will they be watching Stoke's perforamce with a view to a possible fine? There is a far greater chance of a Stoke first eleven, deflated after that cup final performance and with nothing to play for, damaging any integrity, than there is of a Man United second eleven, fighting for places on the bench.

Think birmingham are nailed on to lose at spurs and that wigan cld struggle to win at stoke, wld love to see blackburn go down as im on at large prices and even tempted to top up at 12s now, but they'll prob escape due to others badness. Blackpool in prem next season wld be fun!

Every little helps to pay for Wembley.

The whole argument of weakened teams is flawed now you have to pick a squad of 25. Just makes no sense.

I am glad that is sorted then, may as well not play any games next season.

sure is.

Can still play 11 under 16s if u want I think?

If u want to name 11 under 16s in your squad then I don't see the problem in it. Doubt it'd happen tho

cba to find a better place to post this. police called to the west ham end of season dinner, fighting between fans and players

Nah as far as im aware, players under certain age dont count towards squad. So they could rest all 25 and just play kids if they wanted

Dont quote me but im pretty sure

thats how it works on FM2011.

Is this how you know?

Lol caught out! Nah think when City were chopping people from squad, a couple were exempt for age reasons

Dont worry David, I'm addicted to FM2011 too.  Took leeds to 13th in the Championship (in my first season ! ) and also managed to secure 2nd spot in the prem with Arsenal. 

I'm the shizzle at FM2011, some call me the crab on http://www.footballmanager.com/forum

ian holliway got fined for resting players this season when he replaced them with players who were in his 25 but not his normal starting 11 think it was against villa
i remember him saying he was going to resign if he got fined but the board talked him round

Under 21s dont count towards the 25 man squad.

You should still play - the yellow and green kit helps brighten MOTD up a bit.