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Title: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 05, 2011, 12:53:37 PM
Selling only 16% to Scoop high package at moment at 1.16 markup. Whilst its a big package there may be events i miss for various reasons so obviously buyin+markup will be refunded same for unused rebuys. For the rebuys i work it out as 5x per event, if i go over il pay for it myself, unused will be refunded as said.

Played MTTs full time from June 2009 thro October 2010, where i took few months off after Wcoop win. In that period made final tables of most sunday majors and actually blew 1.7m in chip leads from 15 players out (Flushy can vouch for his!), so whilst +$800k looks good and weighted towards 1 big tournament, it was probably always gonna be 1 big tournament that dictated the profit. If you need aliases pm me.

Got whole month of May free, not going EPT Madrid- this is my wsop basially as not that bothered with playing live

The package itself is the following: NL Holdem events unless stated

May 8th- 2k 6max
May 8th- 2k 9handed
May 9th- 500 r
May 9th- 1k r
May 10th- 1.5k hu
May 10th- 1k 9handed
May 12th- 2k plo hu (reserve the right to pull this tournament out before the start of event 1, and refund everyone as i play PLO hu cash fulltime, so might take all action)
May 12th- 2.5k KO
May 13th- 1.5k ante
May 13th- 1.5k x2
May 14th- 2k shootout
May 14th- 1.5k plo rebuy
May 15th- 2k
May 15th- 2k
May 16th- 1.5k roe
May 1th- 1k plo cubed
May 17th- 1k
May 18th- 1k r
May 20th- 2kcube
May 21st- 5k plo
May 22nd- 2k 6mx
May 22nd- 10k main

Obviously its a big amount of buyins, but i selected the ones i feel i have biggest edge in, and left out the 4max holdem etc. Massive odds against to totally brick and id like to think im a shade of odds on to make a profit, dont mind betting at evens if anyone wants to disagree.

Ive never really had to deposit too much on stars, so my deposit limits are low like 2k a week or something, sick brag obviously so ideally I need the money on there so thats first preference for payments as half the battle of playign Wcoop/Scoop is getting the money onto stars!

Stars alias is CrabMaki. Will also accept ftilt or bank transfer but would prefer them sooner rather than later so i can deposit and get it changed across because 2+2 charge 1% vig changing ftilt to stars.

Edit- total buyins= $72055, wow lol. With markup @ 1.15ish $83,000

0.25%= $207.50
0.5%= $415
1%= $830
2%= $1660
2.5%= $2075
5%= $4150

If any of my maths is wrong feel free to correct please


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on April 05, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
Right, hold on just want to add up totals....brb ;-)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on April 05, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
0.25% pls - can only send on tilt as not got my stars acct back yet


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 05, 2011, 01:18:12 PM
Nps, i can accept smaller payments on tilt and get them transferred across vig free


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 05, 2011, 01:19:59 PM
Ha ha

Awesome package sir  ;)

0.5% pls will send on tilt


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on April 05, 2011, 01:22:05 PM
Right, hold on just want to add up totals....brb ;-)

Thanks for adding up lol - 1% please, sorry edited


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 05, 2011, 01:24:42 PM
Both booked. Stars>Bnk xfer>tilt pls Claypole!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 05, 2011, 01:29:31 PM
Ha ha

Awesome package sir  ;)

0.5% pls will send on tilt

[  ] meant tilt.

Will send on Stars.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on April 05, 2011, 01:53:53 PM
Both booked. Stars>Bnk xfer>tilt pls Claypole!

Soz Dave, changed to 1%, pm and I will xfer ukp amount


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 05, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
Yeah thats fine, pm sent



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: the sicilian on April 05, 2011, 02:34:08 PM
.25% please


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: titaniumbean on April 05, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
one percentile please David!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on April 05, 2011, 05:31:26 PM
0.25% please.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 05, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
both booked obv stars details in op


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: paulhouk03 on April 05, 2011, 05:58:34 PM
0.5% bank pls


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Amatay on April 05, 2011, 06:16:13 PM
0.5% pls, will send on Stars


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on April 06, 2011, 01:41:26 AM
Dave

had a cheeky bink last night so upping my % to 0.5% if that is cool

I have shipped $415 on full tilt

glgl win it all


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: The Camel on April 06, 2011, 01:58:10 AM
I'll have 2%


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Moskvich on April 06, 2011, 12:50:07 PM
0.25% please

Have sent on Stars.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: skolsuper on April 06, 2011, 03:05:01 PM
2% please, sending on stars.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 06, 2011, 03:12:01 PM
Nps 5% left i think


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 08, 2011, 10:05:48 AM
Updated payment list done. Anyone paying via bank or tilt needs to send sooner rather than later, got stag do in Barca this week coming up and im not around for the 2 weeks leading up to Scoop either- or if they can try and get it on stars somehow would do me a world of good. If paying on stars then not as urgent


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 08, 2011, 10:34:53 AM
2mins,downloading on diff laptop


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: the sicilian on April 08, 2011, 11:17:38 AM
2mins,downloading on diff laptop

Will send via stars over the weekend


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Madone on April 08, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
Big sigh at only just seeing this thread. Good luck Dave.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on April 08, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Big sigh at only just seeing this thread. Good luck Dave.

pretty sure there is some left


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on April 11, 2011, 12:46:06 AM
PM sent Dave


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: deepreacher on April 11, 2011, 12:52:54 AM
is there any left?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 11, 2011, 01:00:10 AM
4.25% i think


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on April 11, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
Sent, glglgl.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: the sicilian on April 11, 2011, 09:43:43 PM
Sent GL GL


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Shawrie85 on April 12, 2011, 12:18:45 AM
.25 plz....will send on stars..


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 12, 2011, 02:54:18 PM
Booked- Well Chief 2% too.

2.75% left


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: DMorgan on April 18, 2011, 01:52:43 AM
0.5% please will bank xfer tomorrow


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: redarmi on April 18, 2011, 01:57:01 AM
I'll take 0.25% please.  can you send me bank details?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 18, 2011, 02:56:21 AM
both booked as is PocketQuadssuited for 1%, altho way i played tonight not sure id recommend it!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: DMorgan on April 18, 2011, 04:21:51 PM
Shipped


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on April 18, 2011, 04:27:41 PM
I think there's still some left from reading above, so I'll take 0.25% please.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 19, 2011, 03:48:31 AM
Outragous- 0.5- PAID
Claypole- 1- PAID
StuHopkin-0.5- PAID
EPie-0.5- PAID
Sic-0.25- PAID
Titan-1- PAID
Mondatoo-0.25- PAID
Paulho-0.5- PAID
Amatay-0.5
Camel-2- PAID
Iwillwinlots-0.25- PAID
Mos-0.25- PAID
Keys- 2-PAID
MTT-0.25- PAID
Trigg-1- PAID
Shaw-0.25
WellChief- 2.75- PAID
Pocket- 1- PAID
DanMorgan- 0.5- PAID
Redarmi- 0.25- PAID
Sherrif- 0.25- PAID
Gasman- 0.75- PAID

Going to free up 4% more to bring it to 20%. 16% gone- 4% left


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: pokerfan on April 19, 2011, 08:21:14 PM
Have the SCOOP guarantees been altered yet ?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Longy on April 19, 2011, 10:06:01 PM
Have the SCOOP guarantees been altered yet ?

I read on 2p2 they were considering rescheduling the whole thing. I would imagine this is not at the top of stars list at the moment.



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: AndrewT on April 19, 2011, 10:08:15 PM
Have the SCOOP guarantees been altered yet ?

I read on 2p2 they were considering rescheduling the whole thing. I would imagine this is not at the top of stars list at the moment.

I would say it is - great promo to get Euros playing on Stars.

Start times should obv change, and guarantees will drop, but it should def happen.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: George2Loose on April 19, 2011, 10:14:34 PM
Have the SCOOP guarantees been altered yet ?

I read on 2p2 they were considering rescheduling the whole thing. I would imagine this is not at the top of stars list at the moment.

I would say it is - great promo to get Euros playing on Stars.

Start times should obv change, and guarantees will drop, but it should def happen.

deffo amend start times


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on April 19, 2011, 10:20:55 PM
Dave - I've paid, I'm getting paranoid every time you update the list lol. Know it's fine as you acknowledged pm ;-) - but safe to check.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on April 19, 2011, 10:43:13 PM
oversite, sorry. Amended mate


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on April 19, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
oversite, sorry. Amended mate

No worries, was playing - I might have another % if not gone by time I get my cheque next week.  I'll let you know, if it goes no worries


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on April 29, 2011, 02:20:48 PM
Not forgotten about this.

Will send on stars before the 8th.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Amatay on April 29, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
Not forgotten about this.

Will send on stars before the 8th.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 03, 2011, 02:13:53 PM
Anyone paying on stars can send anytime before Sunday, anyone wanting to pay on tilt or bank xfer (pm for details) needs to send before then preferably.

Theres 4.25% left and obviously since the US have pulled out, its far better value now than it was at the start


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: titaniumbean on May 03, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
Sent on stars.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: gasman on May 08, 2011, 03:29:37 AM
0.75% please, $622.50 sent on stars


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2011, 10:55:29 AM
booked- when i sold package i didnt realise was gonna be 3pm start- i got family thing i cant get out of today- depending on what time it finishes i may miss/late reg tonights tournys- instead of me sending everyone back their % everytime, was hoping a trusted member of blonde would act as escrow and look after funds after ive cashed or owe money back- that way its easier for accounting and they can send the money back to me at the end and il distribute it- obviously needs to a) be trusted member of blonde and b) someone who doesnt really play on stars so wont get the money mixed up with theirs etc

Open for suggestions-

Also have a wedding on day of 5k plo, so looking for alternatives at the moment or will add that to refunds


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: StuartHopkin on May 08, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
Can do this if people are happy for me to.

A fair few people know me and know where I live and obv occasionally found at DTD / Notts Gala


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 08, 2011, 01:20:58 PM
Can do this if people are happy for me to.

A fair few people know me and know where I live and obv occasionally found at DTD / Notts Gala

About as solid an escrow as you can get! Zero chance of stu playing online!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: StuartHopkin on May 08, 2011, 01:49:10 PM
Can do this if people are happy for me to.

A fair few people know me and know where I live and obv occasionally found at DTD / Notts Gala

About as solid an escrow as you can get! Zero chance of stu playing online!

Yep accounts empty and I'm away this week so happy to leave it just for this so there is no fund confusion.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 08, 2011, 02:05:35 PM
Can happily vouch for Stu as an escrow.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: GreekStein on May 08, 2011, 02:08:22 PM
I'd be careful trusting Stu. He's hard up for a bob or two. 

[ x ] Given him every penny I have to look after in the past.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
Ok cool with me if it's cool with everyone else- still about 3% available btw


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Shawrie85 on May 08, 2011, 02:25:46 PM
.25 plz....will send on stars..

PM sent. glglgl


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Royal Flush on May 08, 2011, 03:23:42 PM
Can send to me Dave, won't be using account during next 3 months....


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: titaniumbean on May 08, 2011, 05:01:46 PM
I'm easy


so is Stu rotflmfao


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2011, 08:26:44 PM
Just got in- gonna have bath and then late reg 2k- i owe %s from first tourny i missed- will sort it out with Flushy/Stu later

Gl us- will put final list of %s on here in a min


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
Outragous- 0.5- PAID
Claypole- 1- PAID
StuHopkin-0.5- PAID
EPie-0.5- PAID
Sic-0.25- PAID
Titan-1- PAID
Mondatoo-0.25- PAID
Paulho-0.5- PAID
Amatay-0.5 PAID
Iwillwinlots-0.25- PAID
Mos-0.25- PAID
Keys- 2-PAID
MTT-0.25- PAID
Trigg-1- PAID
WellChief- 2.75- PAID
Pocket- 1- PAID
DanMorgan- 0.5- PAID
Redarmi- 0.25- PAID
Sherrif- 0.25- PAID
Gasman- 1- PAID

16.5%


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2011, 10:36:17 PM
out 4bet shoved KQs into AK- was prob bad given standard was soft


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 08, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
currently owe $398.48 or $24.15 per%


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: StuartHopkin on May 09, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
Stars name is surprisingly original....

StuartHopkin

Obv happy if Flushy does this though so Im easy like Andy Wayman not making a day 2 on a Sunday morning.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 04:46:53 PM
in for 2k already- KK v 98os on T97 board in 3bet pot, all in on the flop and KTs v 77 on K73 board allin on the flop in 3 bet pot


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 05:59:20 PM
added on, so in for 2530. 9k at break, had nut straight v flush bvb


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Amatay on May 09, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Just got your table up for a peek and caught this hand, well played :) Are you calling a river bet/shove?

PokerStars Game #61882818696: Tournament #2011050033, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (60/120) - 2011/05/09 19:27:14 WET [2011/05/09 14:27:14 ET]
Table '2011050033 6' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: xxWiZoxx (9705 in chips)
Seat 2: CrabMaki (16177 in chips)
Seat 3: startfus (4365 in chips)
Seat 4: collins3 (20960 in chips)
Seat 5: sepl55 (20028 in chips)
Seat 6: gnetaren (14143 in chips)
xxWiZoxx: posts the ante 15
CrabMaki: posts the ante 15
startfus: posts the ante 15
collins3: posts the ante 15
sepl55: posts the ante 15
gnetaren: posts the ante 15
collins3: posts small blind 60
sepl55: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
gnetaren: folds
xxWiZoxx: raises 120 to 240
CrabMaki: raises 360 to 600
startfus: folds
collins3: folds
sepl55: folds
xxWiZoxx: calls 360
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3h Qc]
xxWiZoxx: checks
CrabMaki: bets 820
xxWiZoxx: calls 820
*** TURN *** [Qd 3h Qc] [7c]
xxWiZoxx: checks
CrabMaki: bets 1620
xxWiZoxx: raises 2076 to 3696
CrabMaki: calls 2076
*** RIVER *** [Qd 3h Qc 7c] [9s]
xxWiZoxx: checks
CrabMaki: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xxWiZoxx: shows [Ah Jd] (a pair of Queens)
CrabMaki: shows [4h 7h] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
CrabMaki collected 10502 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10502 | Rake 0
Board [Qd 3h Qc 7c 9s]
Seat 1: xxWiZoxx showed [Ah Jd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: CrabMaki showed [4h 7h] and won (10502) with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 3: startfus (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: collins3 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: sepl55 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: gnetaren folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 07:45:24 PM
Busto- lost pot for chip lead, 3bet squeeze red Kings from bb, 2 calls, flop T53 2 hearts, i bet/3bet and shove Ah turn after he flats on flop when we have half a pot size bet left. Dont get there against TT. Id normally just call the raise on flop but he crazy aggro and can have worse loads


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 07:56:49 PM
Might late reg the 1k and play it as 3k fo- come in at 20bbs- if everyone ok with that? will then owe 0.165(2000 x 1.15%)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 09, 2011, 08:01:34 PM
Might late reg the 1k and play it as 3k fo- come in at 20bbs- if everyone ok with that? will then owe 0.165(2000 x 1.15%)

good for me - happy you sub any missed games for that matter


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 09:08:42 PM
Think am gonna substitue 1.5k hu high for 2.5k hu medium later on- got to be up at 7am to go hospital with missus on Weds. Will check and confirm later


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 09, 2011, 10:27:27 PM
Might late reg the 1k and play it as 3k fo- come in at 20bbs- if everyone ok with that? will then owe 0.165(2000 x 1.15%)

good for me - happy you sub any missed games for that matter


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Amatay on May 09, 2011, 10:55:29 PM
Might late reg the 1k and play it as 3k fo- come in at 20bbs- if everyone ok with that? will then owe 0.165(2000 x 1.15%)

good for me - happy you sub any missed games for that matter


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 10:56:38 PM
late regged 1k- gonna try and do my first ever online stalling to get to the addon- so we're in for 3050


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: action man on May 09, 2011, 11:01:18 PM
i saw you stall to get in the money in the DNG last monday


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 09, 2011, 11:18:18 PM
Currently 1/1199 in $109r

Guessing not on the stake so could be good for rubz.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 11:27:13 PM
shove KTs into KK. Normal


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 11:30:07 PM
owe $398+$380= $778 or $47.15 per%

90% sure gonna miss hu and play it later in scoop, but will play 1k at 10pm because will be over in 4 hours


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 09, 2011, 11:31:55 PM
Impressed at the $23 return already. Think I'm gonna be rich!!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 09, 2011, 11:33:48 PM
couldnt have $0 returns on my cv


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 10, 2011, 01:11:21 AM
Sent the $778 to Hopkin for good luck


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 10, 2011, 09:35:36 PM
Missed $1575 hu as stated before- cant play the other date for hu so at the moment going to swap them for either PLO8, NLO8 or FLO8

Playing 1k turbo in 25mins


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 11, 2011, 12:28:29 AM
hkjmdghmjedukjetuketukdghndgm

Didnt see how you got to 90k - but run worse if you can!



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:28:51 AM
Cashed $2584. Life tilted. Sent share to Hopkin for blonde- $426.36

Total sent= $1204.36, or $72.99 per %


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: George2Loose on May 11, 2011, 12:31:16 AM
not flaming and not wanting to question the wisdom of the crab but is A2 a standard shove there utg+1?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:33:14 AM
was only 8 handed, and had 3 players covered


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: George2Loose on May 11, 2011, 12:35:00 AM
was only 8 handed, and had 3 players covered

AJ vs Ash was sick


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:35:23 AM
Its defo marginal tho. So dont mind flaming (preferably from investors tho lol :) )


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: George2Loose on May 11, 2011, 12:36:28 AM
Its defo marginal tho. So dont mind flaming

Nah not flaming. Just a genuine question cos I muck it.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:38:05 AM
Well i wish i had mucked now


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 11, 2011, 12:39:35 AM
not done the maths but for 11bb it looks close but seemed fine to me at the time


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:39:51 AM
least Hopkin cant run off with the loot yet


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: George2Loose on May 11, 2011, 12:39:58 AM
Well i wish i had mucked now

Sicker cos you got there


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:40:22 AM
was 12bbs but as said, i covered 3 players, so alters it slightly


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on May 11, 2011, 12:46:37 AM
I shove fwiw...ul Crab, was railing again, I am a jinx - so thats it for my early morning Oz rails.  I think you are imminentley due a big cash.  Im off to play $330 Aus at Star City tobight, need a fix ;-) - gl for the weekend, thinking of playing high Sunday with Steps tickets so may see you.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:52:28 AM
owe $298.86 from missed tourny, or $18.11 per %. But will probably substitute the tourny

Cheers Claypole, no point wasting it in a 100k comp, gotta be 300k+ to 1st to use a one time up


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 11, 2011, 12:54:19 AM
Going bed, just lost an hour- thought had to be up at 7am for hospital, its actually 6!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Amatay on May 12, 2011, 07:08:03 PM
is the plo hu part of the package mate?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 12, 2011, 07:12:03 PM
yes

won 1st round


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 12, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
Lost 2nd round- won 79% hands, but he was pot controller type that made best hand in 3bet pots most of the time, and lost like 6 big pots that way. Last hand i cr T9x rainbow with QT8x and turn J and he obv has KQQx which is the only hand he peels flop with that has KQ in it that doesnt 3bet the flop


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 12, 2011, 07:37:08 PM
on reflection i prob should fold the river always for my last 1300- gonna decide on 2.5k in a bit


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 12, 2011, 08:40:59 PM
Did you have AK on the QJT x Q board?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 12, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
ya obv- i should fold river cos he got caught bluffing before so wont again, thats how they think,  but think was trying to lose subconciously

Gonna swerve 2.5k

Refund= $493.35

Will send refund for hu holdem too, because alternative is on same day as Wedding i got to go to

Total refunds will send- $792.21
Total sent back- $1996.57 or $121 per 1%


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 12, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

vn sir!

lol@ at the AAxx vs KJJx hand

and when you blocker bet the trip 3's (cccxc board) are you folding to a shove?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 12, 2011, 10:54:23 PM
Think i misclicked, tried to bet 320 and just lent on min bet before pressed enter. Im just trying to get the games over quick and if i win, i win- money too small, payout to shallow to bother playing properly


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 12, 2011, 11:05:17 PM
Think i misclicked, tried to bet 320 and just lent on min bet before pressed enter. Im just trying to get the games over quick and if i win, i win- money too small, payout to shallow to bother playing properly

Oh please don't take my questions as anything other than intrigue. I have no idea about PLO, but tbf, I probs have a better idea than the last guy!

Glglgl


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 04:13:59 PM
Sacking ante tourney off. No interest in sitting here for 15+hours in small field


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: skolsuper on May 13, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
Mate if you can't be bothered then just leave it, nobody will mind, you made the sched before all the yanks were kicked off and now it seems like maybe it's not worth it. Don't just punt your money off cos you sold for these tourns.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
Nah it's fine there is some stuff I'm looking forward to playing- just 4pm starts on Fridays can't be a great idea in a small field


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 06:19:36 PM
Id rather pull out of events and refund than play with shares sold if im not 100% in mood for it- selling shares probably helps me pick and choose when to play better id say, defo not visa versa- normally id just register through boredom and then know i cant win a couple hours in

But am actually looking forward to this Sundays 2 2k slogs, probably cos missed 1st one last week and didnt go deep in other.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 06:48:16 PM
Right gonna play turbo as 1x only- dont see value in rebuying cos u only get starting stack and chances are u will be at the stage where u rebuy for less than 20bbs and sometimes less than 10bbs!

So refunded for 1575 missed today+ 1500rebuy.

Total refunds for both $583.48

Total sent back= $2580.05 or $156.36 per 1%


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
I know your sick good etc and I'm not fussed that I have 0.2% but I have to say if I had invested a decent amount in you in a schedule that you wanted to play and you said this is your WSOP I'd be a bit disappointed. If you don't want to grind 15 hours a day to win less than 6 figures then don't bother playing, I know you've just pulled out of some of the events but it seems you've played some where you just cba and fukd it off, and obv the more events you pull out off the less appealing the schedule is, otherwise I think you should actually do your best to try and win. If it was anyone else people would be saying WTF is going on. I'm happy with my % in you as like I say I don't really care personally as I didn't invest that much but I do think it's a bit mad to say some of what you have when your being staked.



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:25:07 PM
I think what you have said is totally incorrect and way out of line. At no point have i played a tourny and said wtf didnt care when others peoples money was involved- the hu comp above was a MEDIUM buyin where i had 100% of myself and after busted the 2k one which people had action in, i wasnt bothered about it. So i suggest you take back what you said because its just factually wrong. It might just be an oversite but you really shouldnt post stuff if you havent read the thread- not one person on this planet had a % in the MEDIUM headsup plo comp


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
"and obv the more events you pull out off the less appealing the schedule is"

Just incase anyone is stupid enough to believe this then il just add that obviously its completely wrong- If i sell a package at 1.15, some events id sell 1.3, some 1.0 etc- if i pull out the tougher field ones and only played the bigger value ones, it would actually INCREASE the appeal of the schedule. So by not playing certain comps, im ADDING VALUE to the package, not reducing it. I certainly wouldnt sell at 1.15 for Sunday 2ks, that would be in the 1.3 mark or id take the action!

Just so people do actually know that


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 09:33:20 PM
I think what you have said is totally incorrect and way out of line. At no point have i played a tourny and said wtf didnt care when others peoples money was involved- the hu comp above was a MEDIUM buyin where i had 100% of myself and after busted the 2k one which people had action in, i wasnt bothered about it. So i suggest you take back what you said because its just factually wrong. It might just be an oversite but you really shouldnt post stuff if you havent read the thread- not one person on this planet had a % in the MEDIUM headsup plo comp

You generally haven't seemed that interested in playing some of the events, imho, as I said I don't care and if you brick the rest I obviously don't care but that's how it's come across to me, if I'm wrong then ok. I've read all of this thread and all of the thread that I quoted you from, I didn't know which comp in particular you where refering to there but you also said you where sick with the long structures. I'm not saying you've took the piss with peoples money just more suprised with your attitude to events which you said you where dead looking forward to.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:34:06 PM
So you arent going to remove your post? Even tho you have stated quotes about tournaments NO-ONE HAS A SHARE in?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:35:18 PM
"but I have to say if I had invested a decent amount in you in a schedule that you wanted to play and you said this is your WSOP and you where raring to go then read posts saying "money too small, payout to shallow to bother playing properly" I have to say I think that's a bit out of order. "


Are you going to admit this is completely wrong and has no relevance to this thread as its my MONEY and a tournament where no-one had a share so i can play anyway i want?

AS it happens i sat there for 11hrs for a small cash. Funniest thing ive cashed 4/10 comps when im apparently not trying or care. Just the 40% cashing rate, I suppose if i tried i should be cashing 100%?

How on earth am i having to type this


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 13, 2011, 09:36:21 PM
FWIW, as a (small) stakee in this I don't see a problem in what Dave's doing.  He was open in his initial post about dropping out of some events and refunding if so, so I never expected him to play the full schedule.

I think he's been honest throughout the thread as to reasons for not playing and, at the end of the day, we have to rely on his judgement to do as he sees fit.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:42:50 PM
Ive got no problems at all with people discussing issues- but misquoting stuff is bordering on slander. Im allowed to criticise structures and field sizes, that has zero affect on how i play anyway.



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 09:45:24 PM
Ive got no problems at all with people discussing issues- but misquoting stuff is bordering on slander. Im allowed to criticise structures and field sizes, that has zero affect on how i play anyway.



I'm happy to apologise for the misquote.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:47:20 PM
Nps i assume it was purely an oversite. But after busting a 2k comp when ive sold shares, im obviously allowed to donk around on my own money in a smaller event.

I assume its ok to therefore admit at no point is this applicable-"but it seems you've played some where you just cba and fukd it off"


People should be very careful when posting stuff that affects reputation. At every single point ive been totally open and sent all refunds and cashes to StuartHopkin and kept everyone upto date with EXACTLY how much each % is worth each time. I think ive handled this stake 100% correctly and making +ev decisions to pull out of comps due to mindset, field size etc- is something id want when investing. Communication is the key and i couldnt have been anymore straight forward and open.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: redarmi on May 13, 2011, 09:47:43 PM
TBH if you don't want to play an event that was in your original schedule, for whatever reason, then I would rather you didn't but I don't think it comes across that way really.  I understand Monda's point about the value of the package in terms of there is less variance the more events that you play but at the end of the day if that bothers you you have bought too much.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:51:26 PM
TBH if you don't want to play an event that was in your original schedule, for whatever reason, then I would rather you didn't but I don't think it comes across that way really.  I understand Monda's point about the value of the package in terms of there is less variance the more events that you play but at the end of the day if that bothers you you have bought too much.


Variance and ev are totally different things- the EV of the package is higher without a doubt with the tournaments missed than it was at the start. And its not even close


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 09:52:10 PM
Funny if won tonight now, after this :)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 09:59:07 PM
TBH if you don't want to play an event that was in your original schedule, for whatever reason, then I would rather you didn't but I don't think it comes across that way really.  I understand Monda's point about the value of the package in terms of there is less variance the more events that you play but at the end of the day if that bothers you you have bought too much.

As I already said I don't care at all from a personal point of view, believe that if you want, I'm just suprised at Dave not seeming too interested in playing some of the events because of the structure etc, imo, when he seemed so up for it. I completely understand circumstances mean he couldn't play certain events etc and although it obviously seems like I'm attacking him I wasn't, I'm just a bit suprised and I would think the same whether I had a % or not, I'm not having a go at your reputation at all but what I've posted is what I think, obviously.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 10:02:55 PM
Perfect example is $1500 plo rebuy tomoro- in the top 3 events id be looking forward to when i sold shares. There is 1 person registered lol, and chances of 50 random fish appearing as they did last year is non existent. The nlh fo tournys are where all the value is imo, and i wouldnt normally sell at 1.15 for them like I have done here. Which is why its frustrating for me too


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: pokerfan on May 13, 2011, 10:03:57 PM
TBH if you don't want to play an event that was in your original schedule, for whatever reason, then I would rather you didn't but I don't think it comes across that way really.  I understand Monda's point about the value of the package in terms of there is less variance the more events that you play but at the end of the day if that bothers you you have bought too much.

As I already said I don't care at all from a personal point of view, believe that if you want, I'm just suprised at Dave not seeming too interested in playing some of the events because of the structure etc, imo, when he seemed so up for it. I completely understand circumstances mean he couldn't play certain events etc and although it obviously seems like I'm attacking him I wasn't, I'm just a bit suprised and I would think the same whether I had a % or not, I'm not having a go at your reputation at all but what I've posted is what I think, obviously.
Log out Mond and crack another tinny open.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 10:04:51 PM
TBH if you don't want to play an event that was in your original schedule, for whatever reason, then I would rather you didn't but I don't think it comes across that way really.  I understand Monda's point about the value of the package in terms of there is less variance the more events that you play but at the end of the day if that bothers you you have bought too much.

As I already said I don't care at all from a personal point of view, believe that if you want, I'm just suprised at Dave not seeming too interested in playing some of the events because of the structure etc, imo, when he seemed so up for it. I completely understand circumstances mean he couldn't play certain events etc and although it obviously seems like I'm attacking him I wasn't, I'm just a bit suprised and I would think the same whether I had a % or not, I'm not having a go at your reputation at all but what I've posted is what I think, obviously.
Log out Mond and crack another tinny open.

Dubai is more than welcome to a tinny or twelve at mine anytime :)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 13, 2011, 10:07:38 PM
Funny if won tonight now, after this :)

Get fired up and get it won!



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 10:08:45 PM
This all ur fault anyway, for talking about hands and games that werent part of the stake! Look what confusion u caused


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 10:10:28 PM
This all ur fault anyway, for talking about hands and games that werent part of the stake! Look what confusion u caused

Yeah, I blame Guy  :cheers:


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
GL tnite btw.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 13, 2011, 10:20:09 PM
This all ur fault anyway, for talking about hands and games that werent part of the stake! Look what confusion u caused

Lol

Always happy to shoulder the blame

Even better when I ask questions about a game  I know nothing about!

I'm out all night so do a win and it'll be a nice surprise (esp to monda who thinks you are just throwing ur chips in!)  :D


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 10:31:11 PM
This all ur fault anyway, for talking about hands and games that werent part of the stake! Look what confusion u caused

Lol

Always happy to shoulder the blame

Even better when I ask questions about a game  I know nothing about!

I'm out all night so do a win and it'll be a nice surprise (esp to monda who thinks you are just throwing ur chips in!)  :D

I've been out all day, wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 10:32:57 PM
In case people were wondering about field sizes and in particular the big buyin non holdem fos-

When Flushy fted the 5k FLO8 in 2009-

Tournament Date & Time: Prizepool Buy-in
 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo  
 10 Apr 2009  20:44 $410,000 $5200
Game Running Entries Avg. Buy-in
Omaha Hi/Lo FL 10 hour 25 minutes 82 $5200


This year- 28

If someone could find last year would be interesting to see


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
Busto- ship 44 from button over cutoffs open- he has 55. As said dont see value in rebuying and having less than 20bbs, so sent rebuy refund already to Hopkin. In medium which isnt including in this stake lol, lost TT on 99JTx when check check on flop to JJ and then KK all in pre to QQ. So fun times


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on May 13, 2011, 11:03:49 PM
Nps i assume it was purely an oversite. But after busting a 2k comp when ive sold shares, im obviously allowed to donk around on my own money in a smaller event.

I assume its ok to therefore admit at no point is this applicable-"but it seems you've played some where you just cba and fukd it off"


People should be very careful when posting stuff that affects reputation. At every single point ive been totally open and sent all refunds and cashes to StuartHopkin and kept everyone upto date with EXACTLY how much each % is worth each time. I think ive handled this stake 100% correctly and making +ev decisions to pull out of comps due to mindset, field size etc- is something id want when investing. Communication is the key and i couldnt have been anymore straight forward and open.

Agreed 100% - fwiw when I stake I do so on reputation, yours is solid and I trust you to make right calls on changes to schedules, how you feel, mindset - just keep doing as you are Dave from my perspective


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2011, 11:06:48 PM
I got the wrong end of the stick.

Clowns guna clown around :)

Sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2011, 11:07:44 PM
Open to suggestions for tomoros plo- with 1 player regged the total number of players is gonna be under 70 id say, probably 55ish- not sure how much value there will be, will check in morning- il probably either play it as a 3k fout and late reg at last second and take add on, cos addon is 5k stack, buyin 3k stack- so -ev not to take add on. Or swerve it if its just a real small field and no value- If i dont play plo i wont play the shootout as will take whole day off. So will make mind up on plo just before shootout starts at 4pm.

On Sunday i might include the $640x6 1m on ft as part of this stake- (depending on whether play tomoro) im not guaranteeing this as i would never sell at 1.15 for that but will post before to confirm if i do


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 13, 2011, 11:45:33 PM
Open to suggestions for tomoros plo- with 1 player regged the total number of players is gonna be under 70 id say, probably 55ish- not sure how much value there will be, will check in morning- il probably either play it as a 3k fout and late reg at last second and take add on, cos addon is 5k stack, buyin 3k stack- so -ev not to take add on. Or swerve it if its just a real small field and no value- If i dont play plo i wont play the shootout as will take whole day off. So will make mind up on plo just before shootout starts at 4pm.

On Sunday i might include the $640x6 1m on ft as part of this stake- (depending on whether play tomoro) im not guaranteeing this as i would never sell at 1.15 for that but will post before to confirm if i do

How many players for the guarantee? Def play if overlaid.

As said before happy for you to make you own best judgement decisions


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: redarmi on May 14, 2011, 12:46:04 AM
Open to suggestions for tomoros plo- with 1 player regged the total number of players is gonna be under 70 id say, probably 55ish- not sure how much value there will be, will check in morning- il probably either play it as a 3k fout and late reg at last second and take add on, cos addon is 5k stack, buyin 3k stack- so -ev not to take add on. Or swerve it if its just a real small field and no value- If i dont play plo i wont play the shootout as will take whole day off. So will make mind up on plo just before shootout starts at 4pm.

On Sunday i might include the $640x6 1m on ft as part of this stake- (depending on whether play tomoro) im not guaranteeing this as i would never sell at 1.15 for that but will post before to confirm if i do

How many players for the guarantee? Def play if overlaid.

As said before happy for you to make you own best judgement decisions

+1


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 14, 2011, 11:18:46 AM
Any chance I could get a self imposed ban from Blonde on Fri/Sat nights ?

 ;hide;


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 12:38:23 PM
We all been there Mondatoo, dont worry!


If i miss any comp when theres an overlay then thats obvious shocking from me and il pay the % of the overlay per entrant with a markup of 1.15- so if missed a 100k overlay- il add $1115 to the cost of the tournament when doing refunds- 6 in 1500plo r now, guarantee is only 200k which is v small and last year avg player was in for about 5 rebuys.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 14, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
We all been there Mondatoo, dont worry!


If i miss any comp when theres an overlay then thats obvious shocking from me and il pay the % of the overlay per entrant with a markup of 1.15- so if missed a 100k overlay- il add $1115 to the cost of the tournament when doing refunds- 6 in 1500plo r now, guarantee is only 200k which is v small and last year avg player was in for about 5 rebuys.

very generous but i dont think you will be held to it for a rebuy comp!

if there arent many runners i wowld play it like a 1r 1a. You will never be that far behind the field


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
is having 8k for $3075k better value than having 11k for $4575 tho? Works out $2.60 per chip compared to $2.40

Blinds would be 20-40 so basically irrelevant


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 04:03:34 PM
Playing $2k shootout- winner goes thro, had flush v flush first hand and done half stack, i CR river for value


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 04:04:29 PM
and JJ v AK 3rd hand, xxxKx. GG. 1st out, jesus


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 07:00:49 PM
As stated above works out better value to buyin late and just addon- so will be in for 3075. Owe package $853.88


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 09:56:10 PM
69 left, pays top 12, just above avg, avg stack has 175bbs lol


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 14, 2011, 11:38:27 PM
Out. If his hand is a good cold 4betting hand then il go and get a job. Obviously have no fold equity pre, and never folding against him so better off calling and jamming blind, even if he folds a chop 10% of the time it adds equity.

Seat 3: MUSTAFABET (8022 in chips)
Seat 4: CrabMaki (7846 in chips)
Seat 5: toweliestar (17353 in chips)
Seat 6: kiku001 (20626 in chips)
CrabMaki: posts small blind 80
toweliestar: posts big blind 160
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrabMaki [7c Ks Qc As]
kiku001: folds
flounder18: folds
ButchTimothy: folds
MUSTAFABET: raises 240 to 400
CrabMaki: raises 960 to 1360
toweliestar: raises 3120 to 4480
MUSTAFABET: folds
CrabMaki: calls 3120
*** FLOP *** [6h 8s 7d]
CrabMaki: bets 3366 and is all-in
toweliestar: calls 3366
*** TURN *** [6h 8s 7d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [6h 8s 7d 5h] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CrabMaki: shows [7c Ks Qc As] (a pair of Sevens)
toweliestar: shows [7s Kd 8c Ac] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
toweliestar collected 16092 from pot


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 15, 2011, 06:11:02 PM
Busted 2k, raised and 4bet shoved 35bbs with 22 from hijack against cutoff after 4bet folding hand before. AJ wins


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 15, 2011, 07:26:53 PM
just ran KK into AA for c lead in $200, (which aint on the stake)- but feel tilted, so will take couple hours off and see how feel with regards to $2k


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 15, 2011, 07:31:50 PM
On positive side- tomoros tournys look good, round of each but its NL not PL and a turbo PLO. Wont be any moaning tomoro about them :)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 15, 2011, 10:02:09 PM
Didnt play 2k- refund= $398.48

Will post total sent back and total amount per % in morning


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 16, 2011, 05:21:24 PM
In $1575 ROE

owe package $1252.36
total refund/return= $3832.41
1%= $232.26



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 16, 2011, 05:31:31 PM
Out. If his hand is a good cold 4betting hand then il go and get a job. Obviously have no fold equity pre, and never folding against him so better off calling and jamming blind, even if he folds a chop 10% of the time it adds equity.

Seat 3: MUSTAFABET (8022 in chips)
Seat 4: CrabMaki (7846 in chips)
Seat 5: toweliestar (17353 in chips)
Seat 6: kiku001 (20626 in chips)
CrabMaki: posts small blind 80
toweliestar: posts big blind 160
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrabMaki [7c Ks Qc As]
kiku001: folds
flounder18: folds
ButchTimothy: folds
MUSTAFABET: raises 240 to 400
CrabMaki: raises 960 to 1360
toweliestar: raises 3120 to 4480
MUSTAFABET: folds
CrabMaki: calls 3120
*** FLOP *** [6h 8s 7d]
CrabMaki: bets 3366 and is all-in
toweliestar: calls 3366
*** TURN *** [6h 8s 7d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [6h 8s 7d 5h] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CrabMaki: shows [7c Ks Qc As] (a pair of Sevens)
toweliestar: shows [7s Kd 8c Ac] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
toweliestar collected 16092 from pot

I hate his play


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 16, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
Yeah its Benny Spindler, he over aggro crazy


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 16, 2011, 06:38:55 PM
Gone from 10k to 1500 in 2 hands, made big fold on river in hand 1, hand 2 get it in with nut flush draw v top2 and brick brick

Doubled with 5679ss all in pre v QQxx


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 16, 2011, 07:25:28 PM
Busted- had TT98ss in  3way 3b pot, Flop QT9dd, 3bettor pots, i shove, button now reshoves, 3bettor folds. Button has KQQx for somehow total domination. Thats the way its going at the moment


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 16, 2011, 10:52:05 PM
Busted 1k plo 1r1a- busted before add on so only in for 2050- lost bvb with AJJ7 on T73 all in v QQJx, turn A, river K- then got 15bbs in 3 way with 7654 1 suit, 3way where im favourite to win the hand.

Refund- $189.75


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 17, 2011, 12:38:34 AM
total refund/return sent= $4022.16
1%= $243.76


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 17, 2011, 10:56:30 PM
In 1k- get lucky to double thro Eames then obviously lose pot for chip lead last hand before break A9 v KQ, standard for scoop xxxxK- got above avg still


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 17, 2011, 11:04:26 PM
hahah have AQ v QQ for 30k, comes AxxQx lol


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 17, 2011, 11:11:23 PM
Shove 8bbs with 67dd, sb iso shoves, bb overcalls. AT AK- board obv 6xxxA


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: gasman on May 18, 2011, 04:59:51 PM
Saving run good for the main event imo. glglgl!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 18, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
Hope so- missing 1kr- will work out refund


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 20, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
Missed 1kr, and got a wedding tomoro so got to miss 5k plo- going to play 2k nlo8 and miss the 2k cubed because will go on too long and mean if im deep i either wont sleep or will be late to the wedding, both of which are not options- defo playing 2k and 10k sunday

So total missed buyins refunds from above= $2703.94

total refund/return sent= $6726.09
1%= $407.64

Sent Stu a pm to ship me the money back and il start xferring everyones refunds- hopefully will get a bink in 1 of next 3 comps- will send u a pm Sunday/Monday if i dont have ur stars details and send me a pm if u want it via another method, ie tilt or bank xfer


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 20, 2011, 02:34:02 PM
Get there!

saving all your run good for the 10k imo


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 20, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Much bigger return than I was expecting. Well done Dave :D

As for the whole discussion earlier in the thread about missing some comps I actually prefer you to play as few as possible.

One off stakes are all about the big bink not ironing out variance.

Win it all in the main!!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 20, 2011, 10:48:24 PM
hahahahaha

PokerStars Game #62354582193: Tournament #2011050333, $2000+$100 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level V (30/60) - 2011/05/20 22:47:16 WET [2011/05/20 17:47:16 ET]
Table '2011050333 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: CrabMaki (7353 in chips)
Seat 2: Miwo1976 (4505 in chips)
Seat 4: 13STOPER (6200 in chips)
Seat 5: Borys313 (4252 in chips)
Seat 6: ricestud (3415 in chips)
Seat 7: ozenc (3185 in chips)
Seat 8: caprioli (4950 in chips)
Seat 9: bratpack1979 (6395 in chips)
ricestud: posts small blind 30
ozenc: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrabMaki [8d Ah Ad 4c]
caprioli: folds
bratpack1979: folds
CrabMaki: raises 60 to 120
Miwo1976: folds
13STOPER: raises 6080 to 6200 and is all-in
Borys313: folds
ricestud: folds
ozenc: folds
CrabMaki: calls 6080
*** FLOP *** [td Qs 9h]
*** TURN *** [td Qs 9h] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [td Qs 9h 5h] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CrabMaki: shows [8d Ah Ad 4c] (HI: two pair, Aces and Fives)
13STOPER: shows [4d 2s 5d As] (HI: three of a kind, Fives)
13STOPER collected 12490 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12490 | Rake 0
Board [td Qs 9h 5h 5s]
Seat 1: CrabMaki showed [8d Ah Ad 4c] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: Miwo1976 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 13STOPER showed [4d 2s 5d As] and won (12490) with HI: three of a kind, Fives
Seat 5: Borys313 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ricestud (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: ozenc (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: caprioli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bratpack1979 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 20, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
Out. If they had that tourny every day we'd all be millionaires


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 20, 2011, 10:58:15 PM
Incase people wonder and think thats standard it aint at all, he only has 39% overall equity and scoops only 22.76% of the time- hence its totally horrific


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: maldini32 on May 21, 2011, 12:06:52 AM
say you had aa9j in that hand do you still call it off?

i never know what to do when i have aces but no low


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 22, 2011, 06:44:49 PM
Busted 2k- call cr and bets on turn and river with QJ on J87J3 board against sbs J8os. Standard for scoop- was gonna early reg 10k, gonna take hour off and reg between 8 and 9 probs


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Ironside on May 22, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
Incase people wonder and think thats standard it aint at all, he only has 39% overall equity and scoops only 22.76% of the time- hence its totally horrific

without knowing you hand though are you ever folding his hand pre?
not a fan on NLO8 in plo8 i would always see a flop with his hand HU and that deep
infact i would need some sick read to fold that hand

obviously he got lucky though


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 22, 2011, 06:52:53 PM
He shouldnt fold pre, but shoving 6200 into a pot of 210 is beyond retarded because he is only getting called by dominating high hands that play so much better headsup hot and cold, than his hand, which plays amazingly well multiway


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Ironside on May 22, 2011, 07:00:30 PM
He shouldnt fold pre, but shoving 6200 into a pot of 210 is beyond retarded because he is only getting called by dominating high hands that play so much better headsup hot and cold, than his hand, which plays amazingly well multiway

its the reason i dont play NLO8 as people keep shoving and i have to keep folding hands that are basically coin flips pre


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 22, 2011, 10:28:09 PM
Obviously have set over set in 10k, when playing well. Back to starting stack


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 22, 2011, 11:06:40 PM
Got lucky- opened JJ with 28bbs, get 3b, Tom McD 4bet shoves similar stack, I shove, 3bettor calls. JJ v AK v KK


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 23, 2011, 12:32:23 AM
utg opens, i 3b KK utg+2, utg+3 cold calls, utg folds

Flop A23 check check, turn 8 i bet he calls, river A i shove he has AQos, which is the worst cold call in history obviously pre- the only hand containing an Ace he prob should have in his range is quads.

Sort money out tomoro, over and out.

Oh and just for rubs, Mement mori shoved 25bbs bvb with KJ and made a boat, and then got it in with AK v AA and made a flush. So at least i learnt how to do it


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 23, 2011, 02:40:24 PM
Pretty rough series, UL!

Got my stars acct back so happy you send to outragous76 on stars if it's easier



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on May 23, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
Yeah, ul mate - a rough series as said above.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 23, 2011, 10:09:53 PM
Yeah felt rough- will send money when get in tonight/morning


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 23, 2011, 10:13:55 PM
can u send it to me on stars pls paulhouk03


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 23, 2011, 10:15:38 PM
Yeah sure- if people put preffered payment method on here would be great


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Amatay on May 23, 2011, 11:43:42 PM
simonjjj stars. cheers


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Royal Flush on May 23, 2011, 11:52:26 PM
How much do i get?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Moskvich on May 23, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
Moskvich on Stars, cheers.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 24, 2011, 12:00:44 AM
evilpie on stars please mate.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: titaniumbean on May 24, 2011, 12:05:09 AM
beaneh (yellow smiley face) on stars is fine.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 24, 2011, 12:11:53 AM
mondonewc on Stars, ul mate.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: claypole on May 24, 2011, 01:11:24 AM
Yeah sure- if people put preffered payment method on here would be great

As per mail mate, Bank Xfer or stars for all - first preffered.  I'll try and bink for you in Vegas!


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: the sicilian on May 24, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
raisingh3ll on stars please boss


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 24, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
debaser on Stars pls.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 24, 2011, 10:34:36 AM
Outragous- 0.5- $203.82- PAID BANK
Claypole- 1- 1%= $407.64 PAID BANK
StuHopkin-0.5- $203.82- PAID STARS
EPie-0.5- $203.82- PAID STARS
Sic-0.25- $101.91- PAID STARS
Titan-1- 1%= $407.64 PAID BANK
Mondatoo-0.25- $101.91- PAID STARS
Paulho-0.5- $203.82 PAID BANK
Amatay-0.5 - $203.82- PAID STARS
Iwillwinlots-0.25- $101.91- SEE PM PAID
Mos-0.25- $101.91- PAID STARS
Keys- 2- $1054.28 (adding on ur %s) PAID BANK
MTT-0.25- $101.91 PAID BANK
Trigg-1- 1%= $407.64 PAID BANK
WellChief- 2.75- $1121.01 PAID BANK
Pocket- 1- $407.64- PM SENT, AWAITING REPLY- PAID TILT, FOUND DETAILS ON OLD PM
DanMorgan- 0.5- $203.82 PAID BANK
Redarmi- 0.25- $101.91 PAID BANK
Sherrif- 0.25- $101.91- PAID STARS
Gasman- 1%= $407.64 PAID BANK
The Camel- 2%- $653.28 (took off £100 bet, assume thats ok- only outstanding bet is EPT one for £500) PAID BANK

Stars will have to wait till 10pm when i can send again



Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 24, 2011, 11:25:02 AM
How did you have my bank details?


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 24, 2011, 11:52:22 AM
if having bank pays faster can i have it on bank pls

pm otw


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: titaniumbean on May 24, 2011, 05:00:01 PM
Rec'd bank transfer ta.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 25, 2011, 12:42:28 PM
Think everyone is paid other than PocketQuad who im waiting for reply from, but if people could check and make sure that would be great


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: EvilPie on May 25, 2011, 01:38:23 PM
Received on stars. Thanks.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: the sicilian on May 25, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
Received on stars. Thanks.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 25, 2011, 02:20:05 PM
Received on stars. Thanks.

+1


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: mondatoo on May 25, 2011, 02:28:02 PM
Received on stars. Thanks.


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Dubai on May 25, 2011, 02:38:43 PM
How did you have my bank details?

From buying DTD share


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: Moskvich on May 25, 2011, 06:11:28 PM


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: DMorgan on May 25, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
Recieved, ty


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 25, 2011, 08:17:06 PM
Recieved, ty


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: outragous76 on May 25, 2011, 08:21:20 PM
How did you have my bank details?

From buying DTD share

oh yeah  - silly me - and recieved ty


Title: Re: Scoop Package
Post by: redarmi on May 25, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
Got it - ty.