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Title: Check raised on the river :( Post by: cambridgealex on April 12, 2011, 12:27:37 AM First couple of hands. What the hell is he repping? Checks the turn and river then c/jams? should probs bet the turn i guess?
PokerStars Game #60688952857: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2011/04/11 23:28:35 WET [2011/04/11 18:28:35 ET] Table 'Lunaria V' 2-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: JoshhhM ($51.75 in chips) Seat 2: 20alex430 ($50.85 in chips) 20alex430: posts small blind $0.25 JoshhhM: posts big blind $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to 20alex430 [Jh Kd] 20alex430: raises $1 to $1.50 JoshhhM: raises $3.50 to $5 20alex430: calls $3.50 *** FLOP *** [Kh 6h 2h] JoshhhM: bets $4.50 20alex430: calls $4.50 *** TURN *** [Kh 6h 2h] [3d] JoshhhM: checks 20alex430: checks *** RIVER *** [Kh 6h 2h 3d] [Qd] JoshhhM: checks 20alex430: bets $12.95 JoshhhM: raises $29.30 to $42.25 and is all-in Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: redarmi on April 12, 2011, 12:48:32 AM Been through all the options in my mind and it is pretty confusing spot. AK/ KQ with no hearts makes some sense. Does the nut flush ever check the turn hoping you are drawing to something and can get there? I doubt it....if anything I think it looks more like he had the nut flush draw and missed. I call now.
Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: redarmi on April 12, 2011, 01:04:34 AM Thinking about this some more I think he has us beat a fairly significant amount of the time and there are other hands he could play like this I suppose including sets and, in particular, a rivered set of queens. Still think he bets his missed nut flush draw a fair bit if he is any good although check raising it is pretty strong. On balance maybe it is a fold as he needs effective air 30%+ to make a call profitable and I am not sure it is that high.
Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: Whollyflush on April 12, 2011, 03:32:02 AM Snap
Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: SuuPRlim on April 12, 2011, 10:30:22 AM Snap +1 I think him donking the river is more sigh than this Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: pleno1 on April 12, 2011, 10:31:20 AM fold.
Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: GreekStein on April 12, 2011, 11:01:04 AM i dont have a fold button here
Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: pleno1 on April 12, 2011, 11:04:08 AM omg just realised you checked turn? I think this is clear 1000% bet.
Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: Mondeoman on April 12, 2011, 01:20:30 PM Call for information. In a vacuum its prob close so you might as well call and see what hes doing it with.
If hes bluffing then you know he knows your turn check means your range is capped so hes a thinking player, if he has bare ace hearts then he was prob going to check jam the turn, if hes jamming two pair then you know hes capable of checkraising thin for value etc etc. Lot of benefit to getting to showdown early on in a HU match to develop reads and give your oppponent the impression you can't be bluffed. Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: Mondeoman on April 12, 2011, 01:27:20 PM Oh yeah and if you ever want to be bluffing this turn you should really be betting KJ on the turn for value.
When you bet river did you think what you would do if he raised you before you put the river bet in? Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: cambridgealex on April 12, 2011, 02:00:40 PM Oh yeah and if you ever want to be bluffing this turn you should really be betting KJ on the turn for value. When you bet river did you think what you would do if he raised you before you put the river bet in? tbh i didn't i thought the chances of him shoving were really small. but I still have to bet the river don't I? He showed up with Qc 6c so was a nice thin value shove. Title: Re: Check raised on the river :( Post by: SuuPRlim on April 13, 2011, 01:59:46 PM Oh yeah and if you ever want to be bluffing this turn you should really be betting KJ on the turn for value. +1 I think it's a bad check for your range as Keith says you've capped yourself to basically bluff catchers/marginal value |