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Title: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: SchmidtSting on April 14, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
869 runners, c$15k prize-pool, close to bubble with 117 paid - 160 left. I'm top 10-15 in chips, and guy in hand is hyper aggressive.


PokerStars Game #60820814804: Tournament #383472878, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2011/04/14 17:36:36 UTC [2011/04/14 13:36:36 ET]
Table '383472878 17' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: SchmidtSting (60619 in chips)
Seat 2: Emphasy (40884 in chips)
Seat 3: budman973 (24003 in chips)
Seat 4: METELA12 (8294 in chips)
Seat 5: santu1413 (20922 in chips)
Seat 6: Obeslik (25586 in chips)
Seat 7: LiroLa (31145 in chips)
Seat 8: Fl0pDAset (23656 in chips)
Seat 9: Milameki (29780 in chips)
SchmidtSting: posts the ante 150
Emphasy: posts the ante 150
budman973: posts the ante 150
METELA12: posts the ante 150
santu1413: posts the ante 150
Obeslik: posts the ante 150
LiroLa: posts the ante 150
Fl0pDAset: posts the ante 150
Milameki: posts the ante 150
Fl0pDAset: posts small blind 800
Milameki: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SchmidtSting [7c 7h]
SchmidtSting: raises 3200 to 4800
Emphasy: calls 4800
budman973: folds
METELA12: folds
santu1413: folds
Obeslik: folds
LiroLa: folds
Fl0pDAset: folds
Milameki: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh Td Qs]
SchmidtSting: checks
Emphasy: bets 6400
SchmidtSting: calls 6400
*** TURN *** [Qh Td Qs] [Qd]
SchmidtSting: checks
Emphasy: bets 9600
SchmidtSting: calls 9600
*** RIVER *** [Qh Td Qs Qd] [As]
SchmidtSting: checks
Emphasy: bets 19934 and is all-in
SchmidtSting: calls 19934
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Emphasy: shows [5s 5d] (a full house, Queens full of Fives)
SchmidtSting: shows [7c 7h] (a full house, Queens full of Sevens)
Emphasy is sitting out
SchmidtSting collected 85218 from pot
Emphasy finished the tournament in 153rd place
Fl0pDAset said, "oh ****in ****"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 85218 | Rake 0
Board [Qh Td Qs Qd As]
Seat 1: SchmidtSting showed [7c 7h] and won (85218) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens
Seat 2: Emphasy showed [5s 5d] and lost with a full house, Queens full of Fives
Seat 3: budman973 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: METELA12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: santu1413 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Obeslik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LiroLa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fl0pDAset (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Milameki (big blind) folded before Flop


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: Ironside on April 14, 2011, 07:03:37 PM
you got all his chips so you have to say you played it well

i would normally lead flop and turn rather than calling 3 streets


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: mondatoo on April 14, 2011, 07:14:50 PM
Don't 3x it with ante's, make it around 3400. Cbet flop, c/f turn, c/f river.


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: redarmi on April 14, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
This is really a situation which is very player specific and against a "hyper aggressive" player then I don't mind the way you have played it but if I am getting much chips in with 77 on this board on the river I want to be the aggressor generally because you might get some tens and better pairs to fold.  The way you have played it you are really hoping he has a worse pair or suited connectors that he has triple barrelled.  Presumably given he is massively aggressive he also triple barrels all of his big aces, some of his queens and all of his tens as well as all of his pairs.  In that case by the river you are kinda putting your chips in with a prayer.  Are the bluffs and worse pairs really that big a part of his range?? By the river it is probably close but I am tempted to fold on the turn tbh.  All that said, in a vacuum, you won so.....


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: DMorgan on April 15, 2011, 11:26:00 AM
Looks like captain zeebo was right


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: pleno1 on April 15, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
Looks like captain zeebo was right

rofl i was typing this out. crease.


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2011, 01:25:42 PM
yep, preflop raise far too big

i would c/f the turn barring hero reads


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: buzzharvey22 on April 15, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
hero itt


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: Skippy on April 15, 2011, 03:40:41 PM
Don't 3x it with ante's, make it around 3400. Cbet flop, c/f turn, c/f river.

Why? Surely this is just a question of style?


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: SchmidtSting on April 15, 2011, 05:52:27 PM
lol thnx for the replies, he played a hand kind of similar earlier in the game. so was more hero-calling, his bet looked more to try and get me off a semi-decent hand.

I posted because analysing my hands, although i won this won, i think i should still fold this turn 8-9 / 10 times. ty SS


Title: Re: Did I play this well or stupidly? ($8 1r 1a on Stars)
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2011, 07:01:00 PM
Don't 3x it with ante's, make it around 3400. Cbet flop, c/f turn, c/f river.

Why? Surely this is just a question of style?

no, its actually a proven leak to 3x with antes.

if we open to a smaller amount, it means we can open more (our opens need to get through less to show profit), we can keep the stacks deeper for post flop play (i,e we lose less for un-successful c-bets and we can pot control/play with a higher edge post)

when we get 3bet and fold we lose less, and we can c-bet cheaper on flops and need a much lower success rate to show a profit

You burn a significant amount of chip equity 3x'ing in comparison to a smaller open