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Full Tilt Poker Game #30009623374: Table Adrenaline - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 05:59:06 ET - 2011/04/20
Seat 1: Hampshire Slim ($141.70)
Seat 2: JamieKay123 ($63.30)
Seat 3: Frent Meznor ($100)
Seat 4: i like joking2 ($240.60)
Seat 5: k20powa ($140.30)
Seat 6: stewar13 ($112.30)
Seat 7: KKush ($103)
Seat 8: KAPJI MAPKC ($142.10)
Seat 9: canael ($127.55)
Frent Meznor posts the small blind of $0.50
i like joking2 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JamieKay123 [Kd Tc]
k20powa folds
stewar13 has 8 seconds left to act
stewar13 folds
KKush folds
KAPJI MAPKC folds
canael folds
Hampshire Slim folds
JamieKay123 has 8 seconds left to act
JamieKay123 raises to $3
Frent Meznor folds
i like joking2 calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Ah 5s Ts]
i like joking2 checks
JamieKay123 bets $4
i like joking2 calls $4
*** TURN *** [Ah 5s Ts] [Jc]
i like joking2 checks
JamieKay123 checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah 5s Ts Jc] [7d]
i like joking2 bets $14.50
JamieKay123 has 15 seconds left to act

He snap called flop, snap potted river. Felt alot like a missed flush draw, but do we really beat anything else? If he value bets I probably fold, just didnt know what to do when he full pots. Would have snap checked behind had he checked

Busted spade draw inc a Jx?

If he V bets you fold but if he bets the pot you think he's bluffing, I think that is what he wants you to think.

Easy fold for me, you have 3rd pair, not alot else to say.

prob call.

I think bad players just pot missed draws here... I thought Jxss was likely, though the bet was just too fast. Vs someone we know to be a thinking player, I think its harder because we have to find a level of thinking, but against a random I think its generally weak. Iuno, not played rush for a while, and not since black Friday.

Please expand Pee Leno?

snapfolding

I'd just fold and I'd top up my stack pre

easy fold

just think his value range is sets/good 2 pairs/kq, there's not many 2 pairs, 0 sets.

for you guys folding, what do you do with AKAQ/A9/A2 JQss/

The hand would be played out completely different but if we get to the river with the action as shown.

I'd be calling AK/AQ and maybe A9 begrudgingly, probably folding A2 and JQss.

Its a weird hand, only 89 got there by the river but I doubt he'd flat a CBet with essentially nothing? This is why Rush is a weird concept to grasp. No reads, nothing.

lol he obviously doent have 89.

Why would you play the hand very differently if you had AQ/A9/A2?

Up until the turn I'd do the same
I wouldn't be checking turn with any of the above hands I'd barrell again. I dont know what I'd do if raised seeing as this is Rush and we have no reads on oppo.

What worse hands than a2 do you think will call the turn?

By checking Ax on the turn we can get worse hands to barrel brick rivers that would fold turn. Also let's us VB against these hands, villain is alot more likely to call as they get showdown.

I'm probably totally wrong but I usually am :D

Well any stray flush draws and any lower pairs with a FD, some Jxss combos. I don't know if I'm right but thats just how I would play those hands. Granted we dont beat much if do get called on the 2nd barrell but then we can check behind river if we are beat. I just like barrelling alot I guess? :S

spots like this are pretty specific to his value betting tendancies.

If he value bets properly this is an easy fold, if he isn't Vbetting correctly (which i assume he isn't) i.e. he checking some Ax's and Jx's back then its probly a call

however its rush and i assume we dont know so click the fold button no way you can be exploited folding a Ten here for a PSB when you have Ace's in your range.

As for having an ACE OTT, I can you're point that most of the time we wont get three streets so chking turn and calling/betting river is an option (pot control's as well) but i think his calling range OTT is much wider than it would be on most rivers (with all the draws) so id rather bet turn with entire value range (including this hand)

If you have hem (unless villain is completely new to you) you would have some idea of his bb defence numbers, folding to c bet numbers.  

In this hand Id prob fold, plenty of players defend with 2 broadway cards, so he prob has kq 2 pr - wouldnt read too much into the pot bet as its a small pot.

yeh Dave but if his bluffing bet is bigger than our value bet would be on the river then we would make moniez.

assuming that he bluffs equally as many times as he calls, which i dont think we can

FWIW, he had J7ss. This pretty much explains the line

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oh sorry, thought u won!