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Title: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: MTT DESTROYER on April 23, 2011, 12:32:58 PM Without any information, folding is wrong isn't it? So what do i do on the flop?
PokerStars Game #58613728030: Tournament #409010704, $50+$5 USD Holdem No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2011/03/03 21:33:37 ART [2011/03/03 19:33:37 ET] Table 409010704 29 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: Hero (14225 in chips) Seat 2: Acir28 (14244 in chips) Seat 3: ozzyrocks111 (19283 in chips) Seat 4: DimaDima13 (7879 in chips) Seat 5: serb2127 (10899 in chips) Seat 6: Tonbanker (20171 in chips) Seat 7: iloseflips24 (4240 in chips) Seat 8: UhhMee (8111 in chips) Seat 9: tiggy15 (28964 in chips) Hero: posts the ante 25 Acir28: posts the ante 25 ozzyrocks111: posts the ante 25 DimaDima13: posts the ante 25 serb2127: posts the ante 25 Tonbanker: posts the ante 25 iloseflips24: posts the ante 25 UhhMee: posts the ante 25 tiggy15: posts the ante 25 UhhMee: posts small blind 125 tiggy15: posts big blind 250 Holecards Ahrt Ad Dealt to Hero Hero: raises 375 to 625 Acir28: folds ozzyrocks111: calls 625 DimaDima13: calls 625 serb2127: folds Tonbanker: folds iloseflips24: folds UhhMee: folds tiggy15: calls 375 Flop (Pot : $2,850.00) 8s Jh 9d tiggy15: bets 2250 Hero: raises 4500 to 6750 ozzyrocks111: raises 11883 to 18633 and is all-in DimaDima13: folds tiggy15: folds Hero: folds Uncalled bet (11883) returned to ozzyrocks111 ozzyrocks111 collected 18600 from pot ozzyrocks111: doesnt show hand Summary Total pot 18600 | Rake 0 Board Seat 1: Hero folded on the Flop Seat 2: Acir28 folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 3: ozzyrocks111 collected (18600) Seat 4: DimaDima13 folded on the Flop Seat 5: serb2127 folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 6: Tonbanker folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 7: iloseflips24 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 8: UhhMee (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: tiggy15 (big blind) folded on the Flop Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 23, 2011, 12:38:07 PM Flat flop.
Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: George2Loose on April 23, 2011, 12:40:24 PM Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: redarmi on April 23, 2011, 12:46:26 PM Yes I would bet slightly larger preflop too. Flop is a tough spot and flatting on that flop is correct but as played i fold too.
Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: MANTIS01 on April 23, 2011, 01:00:49 PM Agree flat flop, but as played I call. I think Q-10 flats on a non flush board. So you are sometimes vs a set but often enough vs 10's or a pair with 10 combo or even A-J. I would prefer to take those hands on in a 30k+ pot having put half my stack in rather than fold and be left with less than 7k.
Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: strak33 on April 23, 2011, 01:55:17 PM Has anyone said flat flop yet?
Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: MTT DESTROYER on April 23, 2011, 02:59:01 PM Why are we flatting though? My plan was to raise the original bettor on the flop and snap if he shoves, the guy last to act can only do what he did with vvv strong hand, so most of the time he folds.
Surely i'm ahead of the donk bettors range? Doesn't a flat let people see a turn card, many of which are bad for us? Title: Re: Butchered? Should I really be folding AA Post by: outragous76 on April 23, 2011, 09:23:05 PM i believe that this is my area of expertise
this is just about the worst board you could see holding AA vs 3 villains. I mean if you watch outragouspoker live video series on 53774763673th level thinking you could probs fold to the donk tbh, but in reality its a call/fold as played i think i cry fold and leave myself with 30bbs - but there are some (fairly poor) arguements for calling |