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Title: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Bully87 on May 07, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, May 07, 10:27:51 ET 2011
Table Otero III (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( $25.98 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 25
Seat 3: Player3 ( $25.10 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 20
Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720
Seat 5: Player5 ( $28.05 USD ) - VPIP: 37, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 7.5, Hands: 35
Seat 6: Player6 ( $26.83 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 38
Player3 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  7s Tc ]
Player5 raises [$28.05 USD]
Player6 calls [$26.83 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Hero folds
Player5 wins $1.22 USD
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Jh, As ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
Player5 shows [2s, 2c ]
Player6 shows [Ah, Ad ]
Player5 wins $52.01 USD from main pot

Open shoving 22 UTG? Weird
Snapping by AA? Standard

Then 22 winning with a straight?

I could understand if the dude was tilted or losing but he wasnt, was full stacked and hadnt lost any hands while sat at my table. The open shove makes me very suspcious indeed.

Thoughts? Cant just be another standard day on Stars surely?


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Longy on May 07, 2011, 03:47:20 PM
You know I didn't believe it was rigged until I saw this post. I am now totally convinced it is and am going to withdraw all my money.



Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Bully87 on May 07, 2011, 03:49:43 PM
You know I didn't believe it was rigged until I saw this post. I am now totally convinced it is and am going to withdraw all my money.



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Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: bhoywonder on May 07, 2011, 03:51:22 PM
This is indeed worrying.....superuser alert...


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: doubleup on May 07, 2011, 04:24:42 PM

Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720


Hero too passive postlop imo


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Claw75 on May 07, 2011, 04:28:04 PM
misclick possibly?


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Bully87 on May 07, 2011, 04:54:12 PM

Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720


Hero too passive postlop imo

What kind of figure should it be?


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: doubleup on May 07, 2011, 06:00:21 PM
misclick possibly?

nah hes a loon


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: doubleup on May 07, 2011, 06:03:25 PM

Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720


Hero too passive postlop imo

What kind of figure should it be?

wld think that with your laggyish game it should be nearer 3 to force nitty players off the small pots?  What are ur AF figures down the streets?



Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Bully87 on May 07, 2011, 06:16:57 PM

Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720


Hero too passive postlop imo

What kind of figure should it be?

wld think that with your laggyish game it should be nearer 3 to force nitty players off the small pots?  What are ur AF figures down the streets?



From HEM
Flop Agg - 35.9
Turn Agg - 29.1
River Agg - 32.7

I probably have leaks galore, wouldn't know how to go about plugging them tbh.


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Biddy 62 on May 07, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
I once misclicked with 10, 2 and hit a full house. All in against A's and J's


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: doubleup on May 07, 2011, 07:24:01 PM

Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720


Hero too passive postlop imo

What kind of figure should it be?

wld think that with your laggyish game it should be nearer 3 to force nitty players off the small pots?  What are ur AF figures down the streets?



From HEM
Flop Agg - 35.9
Turn Agg - 29.1
River Agg - 32.7

I probably have leaks galore, wouldn't know how to go about plugging them tbh.

you prob would benefit from betting the flop a lot more and the turn a bit more.  It looks like you are only betting when you have a hand (assuming that these stats indicate you are only making aggresive actions ~1/3 of the time)


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 08, 2011, 12:55:42 AM
PLAY LESS HANDS.

grrr
lol


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Bully87 on May 08, 2011, 01:22:43 AM

Seat 4: Hero ( $28.37 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 9720


Hero too passive postlop imo

What kind of figure should it be?

wld think that with your laggyish game it should be nearer 3 to force nitty players off the small pots?  What are ur AF figures down the streets?



From HEM
Flop Agg - 35.9
Turn Agg - 29.1
River Agg - 32.7

I probably have leaks galore, wouldn't know how to go about plugging them tbh.

you prob would benefit from betting the flop a lot more and the turn a bit more.  It looks like you are only betting when you have a hand (assuming that these stats indicate you are only making aggresive actions ~1/3 of the time)


I'm not sure about betting when I've only got a hand but I guess the stats don't lie, I always have a v.high CBet % when I raise so I doubt my aggression factor is low because of lack of betting flop.

And I know dude, but it's hard to get VPIP/PFR down when you've played 9000 hands almost at that level, it's not going to instantly drop, last 4 sessions have been betterish though, 28/17, 30/20, 21/12 19/13. Working on it bud, went broke too which didnt help either.


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Whollyflush on May 08, 2011, 02:37:47 AM
The overwhelming evidence you've presented indicates that pokerstars is pretty rigged.


Title: Re: Stars Rigged? or are those Youtube videos REAL?
Post by: Bully87 on May 08, 2011, 02:48:43 AM
Wow, twice now. Cheers for input :)