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Title: Final table spot Post by: TightEnd on May 10, 2011, 04:07:42 PM 9 handed final, Live
6 paid A guarantee on the top spot prize makes this unusually top heavy, payout wise blinds 800-1600 the short-stack of 9 shoves UTG+1 for 4,000 the big chip leader with 150k of the 324k in play is a real station, appears to have hit all night, however mostly a limper and caller not an aggressor from limited experience, my not having co-tabled with him pre-final table Raises to 9,000 in the cut off Folded to Hero in bb with 21k (5th or 6th of 9)and Td Tc No fold equity, if I shove, he calls Shove, or wait? Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: outragous76 on May 10, 2011, 04:10:03 PM side pot = 10k so you only need to be ahead of big stacks range
ez shove for me - esp with top heavy payout - gotta get some chips somehow Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: celtic on May 10, 2011, 04:13:18 PM Shoving too.
Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: George2Loose on May 10, 2011, 04:16:36 PM Get dem chips in da middle
Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 10, 2011, 04:18:41 PM Insta-shove for me.
Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: Ironside on May 10, 2011, 04:23:34 PM From description of chip leader your coin flipping at best with his range but more often than not dominated I would pass wait for better spot, if he had shown ability to raise suited connectors and small pairs its a shove but you said he was a station and limp called rather than raised his hands
Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: Boba Fett on May 10, 2011, 04:26:51 PM Fold given the read on the big stack imo. How much of his raising range do we actually beat here? AK/AQ and maybe 99/88?
Also the big stacks range is likely to be way ahead of the original shovers range, so good chance of being 8 handed where you will have fold equity on open shoves putting more pressure on the other similar stacks closer to the bubble Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: the sicilian on May 10, 2011, 04:28:02 PM if the cl is usually passive and a caller then his raise must indicate something quite big... no need to stick ur nose in this one..fold and wait for a better spot...this is not a good spot if going by op..if cl was aggy then yes...but when a passive starts 3 betting just get out of the way.
u have a beautiful 3 bet shove stack and the image to get it through Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: outragous76 on May 10, 2011, 04:46:17 PM Does this game have antes?
Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: TightEnd on May 10, 2011, 04:51:00 PM Does this game have antes? Yes 100 I think at this level, maybe 200 Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: outragous76 on May 10, 2011, 04:58:25 PM Does this game have antes? Yes 100 I think at this level, maybe 200 Original advice def stands, get em in Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: cambridgealex on May 10, 2011, 05:27:27 PM Insta-shove for me. Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: skolsuper on May 10, 2011, 05:51:08 PM Hands with 13bbs eff are very simple to analyse:
Pot odds. Ranges. Stove. (if it's close, maybe ICM calculator too) Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: cambridgealex on May 10, 2011, 06:21:01 PM You heard the man Tighty. Get your pokerstove on! ;)
Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: TightEnd on May 10, 2011, 07:36:02 PM Hands with 13bbs eff are very simple to analyse: Pot odds. Ranges. Stove. (if it's close, maybe ICM calculator too) Live? I shoved. QQ utg won the main pot. I scooped the 30k side vs 33. Title: Re: Final table spot Post by: skolsuper on May 10, 2011, 07:47:43 PM Hands with 13bbs eff are very simple to analyse: Pot odds. Ranges. Stove. (if it's close, maybe ICM calculator too) Live? I shoved. QQ utg won the main pot. I scooped the 30k side vs 33. Not play, analyse. My post was aimed more at the people who'd posted analysis without doing any of those things than at you tighty |