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Title: call or fold? Post by: geordieneil on May 12, 2011, 08:24:06 AM quite an active table, most very agro.....the rest stations
[2011/05/12 2:46:08 ET] Table '392379672 60' 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: JeffN999 (95220 in chips) Seat 2: riverplaten (74085 in chips) Seat 3: aaramouni (201112 in chips) Seat 4: gigimaroni (61182 in chips) Seat 5: toonloon (137635 in chips) Seat 6: Pablo Lezama (58907 in chips) JeffN999: posts the ante 250 riverplaten: posts the ante 250 aaramouni: posts the ante 250 gigimaroni: posts the ante 250 toonloon: posts the ante 250 Pablo Lezama: posts the ante 250 riverplaten: posts small blind 1250 aaramouni: posts big blind 2500 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to toonloon [Ts Td] gigimaroni: folds toonloon: raises 5000 to 7500 Pablo Lezama: folds JeffN999: calls 7500 riverplaten: folds aaramouni: raises 12500 to 20000 toonloon: calls 12500 JeffN999: calls 12500 *** FLOP *** [As Th Qh] aaramouni: bets 20000 toonloon: calls 20000 JeffN999: folds *** TURN *** [As Th Qh] [Kc] aaramouni: checks toonloon: checks *** RIVER *** [As Th Qh Kc] [Kh] aaramouni: bets 160862 and is all-in toonloon: ????????????????? Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: NigDawG on May 12, 2011, 10:55:18 AM i can't think of a single hand you can beat on the river that he would play this way
Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: Bully87 on May 12, 2011, 11:08:28 AM All your beating is a J or Flush, without HEM stats I doubt he'd stack off with a straight, very much doubt a flush too.
Sigh fold even though you improved on the river. Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: the sicilian on May 12, 2011, 11:43:42 AM Pretty much all his non bluff 3 bet range beats you
Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: outragous76 on May 12, 2011, 12:08:00 PM Pretty much all his non bluff 3 bet range beats you Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: SuuPRlim on May 12, 2011, 01:14:49 PM yeah you're completely fked here.
Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: geordieneil on May 12, 2011, 01:51:35 PM yup agree with all, could only think of 2 or 3 hands i could beat, AQ OR AJ or JJ....the flush extremly doubtful.
i had to fold.......villain claimed he had AQ [ ] poker villains tell the truth :D [ ] i run well only for 3 hands later my KK to run into AA [ X ] pokerstars hates me ;reallyamsorry; Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: SuuPRlim on May 12, 2011, 02:23:24 PM if he is turning AQ into a bluff its a great move imo - if he is doing it for value then he is terrrrible
Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: NigDawG on May 12, 2011, 09:58:48 PM he bets all Jx hands on the turn. possibly turning Ax into a bluff to fold out the same hand but thats something a bit advanced beyond the vast majority of people. 1.01 he has a higher boat or quads imo
Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: AlexMartin on May 13, 2011, 01:06:06 AM is pre standard here for anyone?
Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: the sicilian on May 13, 2011, 01:14:46 AM is pre standard here for anyone? not necessarily .... but think the question is what to do on the river as played..... there is some scope for difference pre but i prefer as played..no absolute right or wrong there.... still pretty deep to go piling it in pre for me Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: AlexMartin on May 13, 2011, 03:06:15 AM is pre standard here for anyone? not necessarily .... but think the question is what to do on the river as played..... there is some scope for difference pre but i prefer as played..no absolute right or wrong there.... still pretty deep to go piling it in pre for me think i prefer fold to call and jam to both (although mebbe fold>jam is table is weak enough). We endup just guessing postflop against one wide range and one strong percieved range with a hand that just creates high variance spots. Title: Re: call or fold? Post by: the sicilian on May 13, 2011, 09:57:11 AM is pre standard here for anyone? not necessarily .... but think the question is what to do on the river as played..... there is some scope for difference pre but i prefer as played..no absolute right or wrong there.... still pretty deep to go piling it in pre for me think i prefer fold to call and jam to both (although mebbe fold>jam is table is weak enough). We endup just guessing postflop against one wide range and one strong percieved range with a hand that just creates high variance spots. As said no right way... but guessing/reading as opposed to ship and hope.... depends if ur over or under 30 years of age i suppose :) |