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Title: Can I pass this?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 02, 2006, 04:44:14 AM
This hand from early keeps bugging me, so much so I can't sleep. Blinds will go to 2000/4000 next hand. I've seen VanPersie on an all-in steal once about 20 minutes earlier with J9soooted, he got called by 68off(?) and his hand held up. I've seen him re-raise all in twice in the last 30-40 hands, both times he had AK and was called and ended up in a race, he won one and lost one.  There are 17 players left, I am in 8th place, VanPersie is in 2nd. Chip leader has 130kish, whilst 3rd only has 61k. 1st place is £3018, 5th is about £500, 10th is £188 whilst 11th to 20th pays £125.

Table "£10K SUNDAY 1610321 - 1" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: Bigfatstu (19952.66 in chips)
Seat 2: Hontas (37160.83 in chips)
Seat 3: Athlete (46952 in chips)
Seat 4: VanPersie (84985.68 in chips)
Seat 5: Ourarka (30090 in chips)
Seat 7: camel (61344.78 in chips)
Seat 9: Foaming_h (47726.85 in chips)
Seat 10: jippykaye (11994.48 in chips)
Ourarka: posts the ante 400
camel: posts the ante 400
Foaming_h: posts the ante 400
jippykaye: posts the ante 400
Bigfatstu: posts the ante 400
Hontas: posts the ante 400
Athlete: posts the ante 400
VanPersie: posts the ante 400
Ourarka: posts small blind 1500
camel: posts big blind 3000
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foaming_h [Qc Qs]
Foaming_h: raises to 10000
jippykaye: folds
Bigfatstu: folds
Hontas: folds
Athlete: folds
VanPersie: raises to 84585.68 and is all-in
Ourarka: folds
camel: folds
Foaming_h: is all-in 37326.85
Returned uncalled bets 37,258.83 to VanPersie
----- FLOP ----- [6h 4d Ac]
----- TURN ----- [6h 4d Ac][Ah]
----- RIVER ----- [6h 4d Ac Ah]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
VanPersie: shows [Kh Kd] (Two Pairs, Aces and Kings, Ten high)
Foaming_h: shows [Qc Qs] (Two Pairs, Aces and Queens, Ten high)
VanPersie collects 102353.70 from Main pot.

Unlucky or outplayed? I suspect a bit of both.


Title: Re: Can I pass this?
Post by: Royal Flush on January 02, 2006, 05:02:38 AM
In a word, no.

Just unlucky i think.


Title: Re: Can I pass this?
Post by: thetank on January 02, 2006, 07:40:09 AM
You've got to be against one mighty tight brick to make folding here correct, VanPersie was not said brick.
Get some kip, you played it fine.


Title: Re: Can I pass this?
Post by: ACE2M on January 02, 2006, 09:31:18 AM
You did fine. The only time i can fold QQ this late in a tournament is to a raise and a re raise and maybe even another re raise.


Title: Re: Can I pass this?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 02, 2006, 02:42:41 PM
Thanks guys, this helps me from second-guessing myself.


Title: Re: Can I pass this?
Post by: snoopy1239 on January 02, 2006, 04:10:11 PM
Difficult to fold against the guy you described.

He's stacked up, and so doesn't need to worry about any1 else knocking him out. Therefore, he could move all-in with a range of hands such as JJ, AK etc.