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guy is a total muppet earlier opened utg qith q7s called my 3bet and called me down to showdown on a kq332 board
just shown Ad 9d on a 3456k 4 heart board
is my play standard to river and do i call the river bet?

PokerStars Game #62144370709: Tournament #420010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2011/05/15 22:16:32 WET [2011/05/15 17:16:32 ET]
Table '420010003 611' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: surmaAlex (27138 in chips)
Seat 2: Ironside (21835 in chips)
Seat 3: animalgoya (3869 in chips)
Seat 4: huddo222 (8108 in chips)
Seat 5: MisterioOGK (12637 in chips)
Seat 6: joegg1965 (15292 in chips)
Seat 7: SspronxX (6505 in chips)
Seat 8: kittyjois (9733 in chips)
Seat 9: erfurter18 (5225 in chips)
surmaAlex: posts the ante 50
Ironside: posts the ante 50
animalgoya: posts the ante 50
huddo222: posts the ante 50
MisterioOGK: posts the ante 50
joegg1965: posts the ante 50
SspronxX: posts the ante 50
kittyjois: posts the ante 50
erfurter18: posts the ante 50
surmaAlex: posts small blind 300
Ironside: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [Qs Qd]
animalgoya: folds
huddo222: folds
MisterioOGK: calls 600
joegg1965: folds
SspronxX: folds
kittyjois: folds
erfurter18: folds
surmaAlex: calls 300
Ironside: raises 1800 to 2400
MisterioOGK: folds
surmaAlex: calls 1800
*** FLOP *** [As 9h 6h]
surmaAlex: checks
Ironside: bets 2400
surmaAlex: calls 2400
*** TURN *** [As 9h 6h] [5d]
surmaAlex: checks
Ironside: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 9h 6h 5d] [5s]
surmaAlex: bets 4200

why arnt we betting the turn?

pot control

4200 is cheap enough to call the river then?

I bet the turn to check behind on the river. Getting value from XhXh, PPs, straight draws (assuming he is tez, gutshots etc.) You can bet 4k here and the size of the pot is less than checking behind to call a river bet almost 100% of the time. This is unless you think villain would be floating/calling with a weak draw on the flop and will bluff the riv on this board.

Generally i'm betting the turn or checking and giving up here. I dont mind your play, but it leads to this scenario on the river a lot, where it's a bit of a guessing game.

this is the worst spot in the world for him to be bluffing, and the easiest spot in the world to Vbet a ACE.

so id fold. the only hands you beat are missed reds and the combo's of those are fairly low.  Kh Qh/ Qh Jh/ Jh Th /  Jh 8h /  Qh 7h /  Qh 8h / Kh 7h/  Kh 8h /  4h 3h /  7h 4h and its still dubious if he'd play half of those hands like this p/f. whereas I could ratle of a billion combo's of AX/78/99/66/5X he could have.

I think your line is exactly fine, I dont like betting the turn that much but with your read on him being an inferior player, perhaps he calls with some 9T/J9 kinda hands so perhaps merit.

I called, he held t7h I think, managed to stack him later when he called my raise and someone 3b in bb with 63o flopped 2 pair and gave me a 60k stack