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***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, May 31, 03:31:10 ET 2011
Table Klet V (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $23.59 USD ) - VPIP: 43, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 5.0, Hands: 37 - Calling station, limps UTG etc bad player
Seat 2: Hero ( $64.22 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 1.9, Hands: 16287
Seat 3: Player3 ( $36.43 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 23, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 92
Seat 4: Player4 ( $7.82 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 97
Seat 5: Player5 ( $25.00 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 27
Seat 6: Player6 ( $16.12 USD ) - VPIP: 67, PFR: 57, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 21 - In every pot almost, raising most hands too.
Hero posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  Tc Ac ]
Player6 raises [$1.00 USD]
Player1 calls [$1.00 USD]
Hero calls [$0.90 USD]
Player3 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Td, 8c ]
Hero is first to act...

What do you do from here on vs these two players?

(I dont need telling how bad my HEM stats are before anyone does, heard it before and working on it)

check/fold

I was thinking at least a check call vs these type of players? Maybe pick up a club on the turn too if we're lucky and go from there.

bet/ raise /allin. top top baby.

ps. u say you're working on your hem stats. but still called my raise with K2 suited...

re-raise pre ever here? if the raiser is super aggro then you are well ahead of his range, have another caller in the pot, but you are OOP. Dont mind 3-betting or calling. After calling check-call, re-eval on the turn is standard, what else are you considering?

c/r for me every day of the week. If you're going to play this hand, vs those sort of players with those stats, what exactly did you want to flop? TPTK should be more than enough imo to go with.

Alex - I dont know if your being sarcastic or not here? I was worried about one of them having a hand of some sort.
Lolz, DTD hands don't go in my HEM dB pal.
ps. Dont understand why you shoved on me with just a sole J, dont know what it was kicking/suited.

WRTC - I could have raised pre indeed but I didnt want to inflate the pot pre, I was OOP post flop too so thats why I flatted.

Solaris - It's the most favourable flop for my hand, better than an Ace cos of kicker.

Action continues...
Hero checks
Player 6 bets $3 - $12 behind
Player 1 calls $3 - $19.50 behind
Pot: $9
Hero ??? Flat? Raise? If so how much??

Think it's a pretty standard raise/call. I'd expect player 6 to be cbetting his entire range given his stats and player 1's flat call wouldn't worry me either.

Play for stacks imo.

Straight forward shove? We dont want the Villains folding here really.

Sorry, didn't make my post clear. Based on the action you posted, I'm definitely raising to $9ish and calling it off vs both.

Flat calling the flop is an absolute no-no so raise/call is your only option - aside from an absurdly tight fold.

his calling range crushes your hand.

?????
I'd just call.

Never ever just call surely. Why are you just calling? What are we happy to see on the turn? Are you folding if it bricks out on the turn? Are villains more likely to get it in here with worse than on the turn if they brick their draw/it gets scary for them/us. Seems like if we are continuing with this hand we are raising and getting it in. If not you could make a nitty fold, but we are ahead more often than not if you are confident about player 6's play (although after such a small hand sample I dont think you can make many judgements, unless super obvious).

I ended up making it 11; then waited for the shove by the first guy who probably thought I was folding for another 4 he had behind.
The other guy shoved too, creating a side pot of 15 and obvz snapped.

First villain shows JJ, second villain shows 76

Bink a 10 on the turn, happy days!

Player 6 playing 67/57 id be making a large raise preflop.

as played id just bet bet bet bet bet bet bet unless something horrible happens or until no1 has chips left

i quite like ur hem stats tbh, everyone subscribing to the same "one-size-fits-all" is boring and i like to see individual styles. There are 15/12 winners and losers and 40/30 winners and losers. Dont change ur style too much, always retain a bit of you. 

As played preflop is a slamdunk 3bet. As played id be check calling and not folding v this guy, his shit range and his absurd aggression.

It's only an average when it puts it out in a HH. I play some sessions 15/15 and some 35/20, mood dependable. Suppose I should look at a correlation between winning/losing vs tighter/looser.