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Setting - I am in Day 1B of the £100 k guranteed £300 DTD: Starting stack of 15,000 - blind levels of 40 mins on a 9 handed table

Table Dynamics - Table is pretty nitty (seriously nitty) with serial limpers and poor bb in traps 2,3,4 - I am in trap 9 - players to my right are pretty weak passive yet Lithuanian in seat 1 is a maniac - who was literally playing like 80/70 for the first 3 levels with near enough infinite aggression post flop yet has quieted down a lot in the last 2-3 levels since the first break

In the last 3 hands the Crazy Lithuanian has won a 90 bb pot with AA v AK then loses a large pot with aq to 22 on a 2 x q a board blind v blind ( so he is kind of steamy)

We have history where I have opened 2 or 3 times in mid late position and have taken down on cbet flops or by bet, betting and when he had flopped the nuts twice on me and had been extremely aggressive with his nuts holdings

Level 6 – Blinds are 200/400/25 (full ring)  i have about 21.5 k covering Serial Limper and am covered by the Crazy Lithuanian

I am in the Low Jack with [ 2s 2c]

Serial Limper calls UTG + 1
I isolate to [1525] in lowjack
Crazy Lithuanian Calls
Blinds Fold and Serial Limper calls

Flop

Ks  Td 2h [Pot just over 5k}

I cbet to 2125
Crazy Lithuanian calls

Turn

Ks Td 2h Ac [ Pot just over 9k}

I bet 5600
Crazy Lithuanian calls

River

Ks Td 2h Ac Qs  [Pot just over 16 k}  

Effective Stacks are about 12 or 12.5k

What is our best option in this spot?

if you think he has the jack you check fold if you dont think he has the jack you value jam

welcome to the world of Vaidas Siruinas. very nice man and would sooner let him have my chips on that table than anyone else. always the chance they are coming back with intrest in better spots later. ;pokergods; ;pokergods;

Why are you iso'ing with 22? I hate that. I would also check the turn with the intention to check/shove if he bets.

Think the river's a fml check/fold. I hate leading out so you're pretty much bluff-catching on the river. Could go check/check I guess but I'm never leading out in that spot personally.

WTF is the low jack?

hijack minus 1

Yeah not a major fan of the iso. Quite like a limp along pre to gave Vaidas the chance to make it 2400, get 3 calls from the limpers, then you can shove to fold him off the J4o and pick up about 10k risk free a lot of the time... also you can just set mine deeper if it limps rouind.

lo jack? Got what you deserved for calling it the lo jack.

^banter right?

No problem with the iso, no Vargas and he c bets wins 90% of the time

Vargas has an amazing ability to check behind with very big holdings! I've only played him once, but he did it 3 times to me. In cash games he does pay off thou. As such I'm jamming to get value from his 2 pr holdings and accepting my fate if he has a J

Vaidas is his name Guy but it is pronounced Vargas. he won a seat in the rebuy in the morning. had a load of rebuys but ended the re buy period chip leader on our table.

^This

I don't like check folding against this opponent but he can easily check back hands that will call when we shove therefore shoving is obviously the best play imo.

I prob iso to like 1125 pre if I'm going to but I don't mind limping behind. I like flop/turn bet sizings for river shove.

ABC poker states idiots cant fold (idiots is my word and is obv a bit harsh). so wtf are we isoing here? noone folds they call and we have 22 pre. are we hoping that we get the call from 23 off which is the only hand we are dominating. in my world its about pot control and we have now needlessly inflated the pot against a guy who is going yum yum look at that nice pot. we never really know where we are against him and all we know is he aint gonna make life easy for us to win this pot. we are getting into bother when we hit a set. hope you can tell me you won but from what i know about the vilans game he could even have 10 2

A) What is poor bb? .... may be obv, but not a forum reg
B) Is the guy in seat 3 a young little Irish sounding kid with glasses?

If he never folds pre and folds a bunch on the flop then it seems fine to me.

What if trap 2 backraises our frontraise from the lojack?

In after upsetting player at table with my opinions

Lol no, I wasn't at the table. I don't know what 'bb' means... i assumed it was bad. I just know the guy in seat 3... and know he's good. He's a friend of a friend who chopped the SCOOP main event a few weeks back.

he is my friends friends friend also

HAHA same

 ;shame;
 
I shall not bite

 ;snoopy'sguns;

In after last post on Blonde after comparing Sharkscopes- but I thought he was a nit who hadn't shown any reason for me to be fearfull who also didnt bet for enough value when a king paired a river when had flopped bottom set against crazylithuanian  - guess sample size was small and my read was wrong - but at the time I was of the opinion that I had seen no reason to be wary of him

Haha obv his will be crushing as he is a luckbox. I don't know his game that well, I assume it's decent as he wins good money online playing HU. Think this was his first live tourney, so he probs didnt adjust to that at all. Surprised he didnt do his stack bluffing into a live station, he loves a moan about how lucky people are when they find a hand vs him.

I have been calling him Vardas for the last 2 years and always thought he was Russian!? he has never corrected me. Maniac on cash but proper nice guy.

Was talking with him about the Blackjack tables on Saturday and he mentioned a game played in some foreign land. I googled it and it turns out to be blackjack switch with russian rules, apparently it is becoming more popular in Vegas. http://www.switchblackjack.net/information-on-russian-rules-on.html (http://www.switchblackjack.net/information-on-russian-rules-on.html) said something like if you surrender the bet then doubles and his card moves on, so on and so on. Not 100% sure. How long til we see this in DTD?

Also, obv i am only calling it the lo jack from now on.

It's not pronounced Vargas. We had this discussion with him last night. Everyone calls him Vargas because someone once put him down in a tourney as Vargas no Vaidas... and it is actually pronounced Vai-das. He will always be Vargas to me as well - lost 4k last night, largely donating to Mitch.

Isoing is fine, as i quess this is the stereo type serial limper that calls and then folds when he misses and pays you off when you both hit can only be profitable.
Yeh river shove is best i think

Iso seems fine, why not take control of the pot v a weak passive fish.

I feel like we need to attempt to range his double float. You have a decent amount of history on him, so if he believe he's capable of floating 2 streets on this board to spazz river and look super strong, then we can go c/c. If we feel like he has some sort of Kx hand, or perhaps even a 2pr hand on the river, then I feel like we may well have to just pile river for value. I like the turn bet because it's set up a PSB on the river, so if we somehow got there w/ the J then it's gg us, he has no reason to put us on the J, so I feel we get a bunch of value a hand such as KQ, which would make sense in this spot given his line.

Because we have 22 which doesn't play well post-flop a large majority of the time?

Can't believe people like to iso here with 22 with a crazy guy behind who is IP.

Still playing this hand Ffs. Only two out comes here. Your night ends when vaidas stacks you with a bag o shite or you get a double up and answer your phone that has not rung and pretend that their is a family crisis and sneak off to gala. Simples

Some sick levels in this thread.

Had a pretty similar hand in a GUKPT, and I shoved a set of queens, which was second top set. Got snapped up by a straight, but I thought it was really close. A respected player on the circuit said I should have check folded, and at the time I said yeah probably, but I think I was being results oriented. Obviously you can't compare hands directly, different table dynamics and all, but I think in this spot, Vaidas sometimes calls with AK (or other two pair combination) and sometimes folds.

The only consideration I think is important is if Vaidas bets his 2 pair on the end, or checks back. Personally, I don't think he's likely to value bet 2 pair thin here, so I guess I'm edging towards a check fold. Pretty close, and nice hand though.

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