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Hi all, just wanted to get the second opinion on the following hand - thanks in advance:

Scenario:
£220 buy in live tourney/flight B - 4 hours in and 40 players left out of starting 80. 4 more levels to go before the game breaks for day 2.
Avg chip stack is 30k, I'm on 24k after posting the big blind.

Blinds:
1k/500 and 100 antes - 9 handed table.

The hand:
The guy in the cutoff limps, small blind just calls and I check with my 2h 9h.

The flop comes: Jh 9s 2d

Small blind checks and I bet out - 2k. The cutoff guys min raises to 4k, whereas small blind folds.

Additional info on a cutoff player: loose/fishy...called 4bet all in earlier on with A7 and 3bet 2 solid players with KQ just to call reraise all in on flop with a gutshot! However he has never min raised before.

Action is back on me....how do you proceed? What do you put him on?

What's his stack size?

If he covers I'm flatting to see a turn card and then checking in order to see what he does.

Edit: Shove

yeah, he covers me - he's got around 28k.

Against villian described i'd like to get him to put all his chips in with Jx. If he's tarping with a better hand gg but it's unlikely, you'll be good here a lot more than you won't for sure :)

Shove. And fold pre. This is not a hand to play oop.

He has the option to check pre...which is what he does.

boom

she fwiw - def a she!

Jam flop

deffo hadukening him

My apologies!

If we jam the flop it's a pretty huge over raise, 4k > 22ish. Do we expect villain to always call off?

Are we never worried about his min-raise too? Most live donks only tend to minraise with hands they want to get value from...

Worried about what?

"it" might be AA or AJ thou in villains head. We could just raise commit but i dont mind the jam when playing live

Yeah, guess it could be a slow played AA from villain etc. I definitely am getting it in, just wondered if jamming 4k > 22k is the best way.

Just get them in and no we are not worried about the min raise because we have two pair perfectly disguised and are just over 20bb deep in a comp that gets fairly crapshooty from here.

Well played now jam

Thanks for all replies guys.

So I ended up 3betting all in on the flop (as I wanted him to call with a worse hand - KJ, AJ, QQ, KK & any draws) but he snap called with J 9 and knocked me out.

Purely mathematically, then its a clear jam.

But its live poker innit, the fish min raise sets alarms off.

I click it back to 6200.

If he comes back over the top, iFold. I still have 18bb's I can resteal with.

phewwww, this is the guy who said I played terrible right?

Yup good play. Click back to find out where we're at when realistically we're usually winning and potentially get hands to fold that we get value from when we jam

Least we found out for 6200 rather than our tournament life eh?

ffs, just get it in...
















9 BALL CORNER POCKET!

Ffs George + Pleno. It's obvious that the whole point of poker is to figure out what someone elses hand is. No idea where'd you'd get that ridiculous conception that it was all about winning bb's ...jheeeez

You think we'll get more calls from a jam than a smaller bet?

smaller bet here with your stack size looks stupidly stong. Even live

but obv I'm never clicking it back here to fold anyway.

I hope every post youve made on here is a level (bar a few really good ones)

Clear clear clear jam. If you're entering £200+ tourneys you shouldn't really be doubting this is anything other than a shove, esp with the previous noted hands.

Obv J9 is in his range, but its a wide range and a wide range he is getting it in and re-popping the flop/folding with. 0 point in just re-raising, looks too strong... at least a jam can be a bluff/semi-bluff here.

Let's say this spot is against a capable reg. Do we 3b the flop to get it in? Or do we flat to get it in on most turns?

If 3b what size? Seems too big to jam vs someone who is calling properly. Do we click it back?

If flat what's our turn line? B/c or c/r?

What's a level?

Busted!

I got owned