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Title: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: WPIL on June 25, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
Hand from the £100er at Luton Last Night
4 Handed at 3000,6000
Villain (Tony De Luca) Biggest stack 200,000 plus, Me 105,000
Villain UTG raises to 22k
Button Fold
Small Blind Fold
2 Red Aces
ME?
(FWI I think I played it badly now in the cold light of day)


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: Bully87 on June 25, 2011, 02:28:51 PM
Jam?


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: Solaris on June 25, 2011, 02:55:12 PM
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Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: outragous76 on June 25, 2011, 03:56:16 PM
Just jam to open your perceived range


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: MC on June 25, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Jam, I mean what else can you do?

[ ] call
[ ] min-raise
[ ] raise
[ ] fold


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: Simon Galloway on June 25, 2011, 04:21:14 PM
It might help if some of you knew the villain.

Special case for a special player, raise to about 50k and shove any flop.  Not a spot to worry about perceived range, balance, unexploitability or anything else.  You can't jam and have him get off the hook. 


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: WPIL on June 25, 2011, 06:46:34 PM
Im raised to 46k but got a fold, afterwards I felt this was wrong as I would appear to be super strong as opposed to the Jam but still think he would have folded (says he had AJ)

Flat and then shove any flop?


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: cambridgealex on June 25, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
Perceived range is abs nonsense in these comps. Just call and check shove any flop. Perhaps with a cheeky little speech of sorts as well. Obv vs anyone remotely awake just shove
 


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: GreekStein on June 25, 2011, 07:01:41 PM
Disagree with everyone bar simon galloway here.

Raise to 42k and ship flop or bet like 19k if its like 752 etc


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: paulhouk03 on June 25, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
i would call check shove here

if he has a high cbet %age

which most chip leaders will in a live tourney


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: GreekStein on June 25, 2011, 07:04:54 PM
Against any good player (you don't have to worry about this for tournaments in luton), just ship pre pretty much always.


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: Claw75 on June 25, 2011, 07:26:02 PM
Against any good player (you don't have to worry about this for tournaments in luton), just ship pre pretty much always.

do you not realise that Dean 'The Sicilian' Morris is a Luton regular?


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: GreekStein on June 25, 2011, 10:07:12 PM
Dean 'the sicilian' morris doesn't raise pre when someone else has aces. He knows.


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: pleno1 on June 25, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
cawl, plssss cawl.

seriously.. please call.


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 26, 2011, 03:23:23 AM
we do all realise that when we call here our hand looks like Aces or Kings?

that being said i agree that in these comps where people will raise fold KQ and 88 off 11 big blinds and wont be jamming about 75% of the hands that they should be that calling will most likely be the best play here, as long as we all know its a trainwreck play lol


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: cambridgealex on June 26, 2011, 04:11:38 AM
Yeh ldo. But its a live 50freeze.


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: maryhadalamb on June 26, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
He makes it 22k, over 3x would lead me to conclusion he's not esp au fait w/ tournament technicalitites. I'd just call as we can just play in a totally exploitative manner here.


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: baltic_blonde on June 28, 2011, 02:05:47 PM
I think both options are viable/ok - Call pre n check shove any flop or 3bet all in pre - my decision would be based on how aggressive/loose is my opponent and previous hand history with him..


Title: Re: Aces on Big Blind
Post by: dakky on July 08, 2011, 12:40:01 AM
Don't know villain but vs this open size I call and ch/jam flop then berate myself after for not jamming pre when it comes AKQ and he checks back then folds 88 to our turn bet.