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Title: simple online mtt question
Post by: bhoywonder on June 26, 2011, 08:40:29 PM
Can tight abc play get you deep in low stakes mtts?.

Simple query


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: outragous76 on June 26, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
Can tight abc play get you deep in low stakes mtts?.

Simple query

very much so


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: bhoywonder on June 26, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
Can tight abc play get you deep in low stakes mtts?.

Simple query

very much so

Ty sir....then I shall try try yet again.....


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: strak33 on June 26, 2011, 09:13:58 PM
50p ?

Of course it can


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: Solaris on June 26, 2011, 09:17:41 PM
Can get you deep, but you'll struggle to win anything.


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: bhoywonder on June 26, 2011, 09:29:19 PM
Can get you deep, but you'll struggle to win anything.

This is what I suspected...I know its all basic stuff....just having major confidence issues....obv bad beats galore.....getting deep would be nice....sorry guys...multiple 50p,s...


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: Solaris on June 26, 2011, 09:30:40 PM
Can get you deep, but you'll struggle to win anything.

This is what I suspected...I know its all basic stuff....just having major confidence issues....obv bad beats galore.....getting deep would be nice....sorry guys...multiple 50p,s...

How many tournaments you playing at once? What size buy-in? What's your roi? etcetc


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: pleno1 on June 26, 2011, 11:29:44 PM
its the only way to approach low level mtt's, with huge amoutn of pressure on bubble and around the final table.


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: Amatay on June 26, 2011, 11:46:22 PM
what do people regards as low stakes? people definition of limits/buyins can be different


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: KarmaDope on June 27, 2011, 12:02:17 AM
what do people regards as low stakes? people definition of limits/buyins can be different

<$11


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: bhoywonder on June 27, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
what do people regards as low stakes? people definition of limits/buyins can be different

<$11

Yeah...around this range..

Improved last night...15/800....supertight,then superaggro bubble n other spots...then card-dead..


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: pleno1 on June 27, 2011, 09:43:09 AM
less than 50's is small stakes. maybe not in $ value but in terms of standard of play. basiclly plays the same.


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: bhoywonder on June 27, 2011, 09:45:56 AM
its the only way to approach low level mtt's, with huge amoutn of pressure on bubble and around the final table.

My mind must have melted pleno...from the original question I was curious if apparently maniacal tendencies were +ev..cos that's what I'm seeing...


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: Turophile on June 28, 2011, 12:01:54 AM
its the only way to approach low level mtt's, with huge amoutn of pressure on bubble and around the final table.

My mind must have melted pleno...from the original question I was curious if apparently maniacal tendencies were +ev..cos that's what I'm seeing...

Hello,

No they're not. Targeted 3/4 betting works but abc will return profit over a decent sample. Good luck & hold


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: redarmi on June 28, 2011, 12:48:45 AM
Agree re: targeted 3betting but think if you are 4betting light anymore than very occasionally at stakes of <$33 then you are getting too fancy.  You can pretty much just wait and let them spew off.  Tonight in a $11 turbo i was playing I saw someone limp then 4bet shove UTG with KJ and that kind of play isn't that rare really.


Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: Coggy on June 28, 2011, 09:33:12 AM
Agree re: targeted 3betting but think if you are 4betting light anymore than very occasionally at stakes of <$33 then you are getting too fancy.  You can pretty much just wait and let them spew off.  Tonight in a $11 turbo i was playing I saw someone limp then 4bet shove UTG with KJ and that kind of play isn't that rare really.

That might of been me :-)



Title: Re: simple online mtt question
Post by: Pharo on July 05, 2011, 09:38:10 PM
It depends what you're calling Tight ABC Poker, because in my experience most people that think they're playing Tight ABC Poker are really playing Tight BAD Poker.

Being successful at poker is about understanding the situations that are evolving around you and taking advantage of them. When someone says they play ABC poker it usually means they ignore the situational part of the game and just play their cards. You'll never be good at MTTs doing that. You need to change how you play to match the table dynamics. That's why pleno says to put huge pressure on at the Bubble and FT. Not because he has maniacal tendencies but because the situation has changed to one where a lot of the players are suddenly scared to put chips in the pot. Looking for and understanding these changes is, to me, all part of ABC poker.

In any MTT you should be getting looser as the tourney continues. Being tight is okay at the beginning when you have 100BBs but being tight at the end is a sin. If you are usually making it to the mid stages but rarely making it further then in all likelihood this is the problem.

Besides, how are you ever going to improve if you don't play some hands and make some mistakes? And how are you going to have any fun? Loosen up!