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Title: WSOP $1500
Post by: pleno1 on July 06, 2011, 03:18:54 AM
Hand that came about. I have 15k, c/o has around 7k.

We have been talking alot, he is on my direct right and he is a live 1knl full timer. We getting on v.good and talked a little about strat. Not too much ofc.

Folds to his c/o and he makes it 350 at 50/100, I 3bet to 825 w/ Kh Ks, he 4bets to 1875 and I call.

Flop is  Ad Ac Qc, he cbets 1475, I call.

Turn is  Jh, he bets 2100. I fold.

This fine/ok?


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: DMorgan on July 06, 2011, 03:54:38 AM
Jam pre while you can still rep AK, your flat there looks ridic strong to a thinking player imo

Postflop looks good


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: cambridgealex on July 06, 2011, 04:43:31 AM
This^


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: AlexMartin on July 06, 2011, 04:58:08 AM
always jamming pre.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: Rupert on July 06, 2011, 05:00:31 AM
ye doubt hes bluffing rip it pre as played seems gd


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: pleno1 on July 06, 2011, 11:54:41 PM
Thought about jamming pre yeah.

Only thing was I don't think I'm very balanced here, I';m never spazzing out in level 3 and 5b jamming 78s here even with the decent dynamic. I think that I sometimes get heros to 4b puke fold pre against me and ofc I think he has some air in his range when he 4balls.

I also think when it makes it super small that he believes I can sometimes be hood flat peeling pre.

How deep do we have to be for us not to 5b jam ?


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: George2Loose on July 06, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
Who cares about balance in this spot?


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: cambridgealex on July 07, 2011, 12:11:38 AM
Well if pads has no bluffs in his range here and only a super strong value range, it makes it easy for villain (as described) to play perfectly against us.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: George2Loose on July 07, 2011, 12:20:29 AM
Well if pads has no bluffs in his range here and only a super strong value range, it makes it easy for villain (as described) to play perfectly against us.

The villian has put in almost 1875 in out of a 7k stack. Doubt he's folding enough of the time to the 5 bet to worry about balance


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: mondatoo on July 07, 2011, 12:25:19 AM
Well if pads has no bluffs in his range here and only a super strong value range, it makes it easy for villain (as described) to play perfectly against us.

Since we don't have a ton of history with villain then he doesn't know this. Also it's unlikely that villain is 4b light pre antes oop vs another decent play when there is probably so much value on the table.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: DMorgan on July 07, 2011, 04:13:02 AM
Also it's unlikely that villain is 4b light pre antes oop vs another decent player when there is probably so much value on the table.

No need to over complicate this spot, mainly because of this ^^^

You can't really get away from the fact that whatever you do at this point (flatting, jamming or tiny 5betting) is gunna look ridic strong. Jamming looks to be the most deceptive of the three options.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: Boba Fett on July 07, 2011, 05:40:26 AM
Doesnt really seem like a spot where you need to worry about balancing


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: Royal Flush on July 07, 2011, 08:16:02 AM
I'm just curious as to what a 1knl player means??!?!


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: pleno1 on July 07, 2011, 12:20:54 PM
I'm just curious as to what a 1knl player means??!?!

meh im pretty sure u knew exactly what i meant.

constructive as ever.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: pleno1 on July 07, 2011, 12:21:23 PM
he showed  Ad 6c btw.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: Junior Senior on July 07, 2011, 03:40:09 PM
Jam the MOFO! 5-bet his ass.


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: cambridgealex on July 07, 2011, 04:13:24 PM
he showed  Ad 6c btw.

well he'd fold that pre if you jammed so jam


Title: Re: WSOP $1500
Post by: George2Loose on July 07, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
he showed  Ad 6c btw.

well he'd fold that pre if you jammed so jam

Good read on him being decent. Nice spewage