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If UEFA allow this, it's a massive joke

Hardly surprising. I thought this would be the way clubs get around the issue. Chelsea will do the exact same thing.

Most top clubs don't breakeven and the reality is UEFA will play hard ball but ultimately won't do a thing.

Can you imagine the likes of Chelsea, Barca, United and all those others in huge debt being told they're banned from Europe? Not a chance in hell.

People outlined loopholes years ago. Whats to stop one of abramovich's companies sponsoring the match day balls every week for 5 years for 400m? so they break even and therefore are allowed to spend spend spend at a huge lose if it was not for the generous sponsorship.

I think people have already looked at it and said it's not that far out from what other people get when you look at everything they are sponsoring.
Barca are getting a huge amount this year just for shirt sponsorship and this covers a lot more.
You can't just hire out a car parking space to Abramovich for 100million a season. It has to be comparable to what others get.
Also not great to compare it to the Arsenal deal that they are/where looking to buy themselves out of as it's well below the market value now.

Which City's deal isn't.

A team gets into the CL for the first time and can command a deal that dwarfs any other in history? Behave.

As I said people have looked at it and think that they will easily be able to justify it.
£20mil a year shirt sponsorship is the same as Liverpool and they have no Champions League and less than Barcelona.
£10mil a year stadium sponsorship. Not a lot to compare it too but there are some pretty big deals done by American sports teams.
Plus a few extras. I think they'll get it through.

Of course it will. This is why the rules are a joke.

True but Liverpool and Barca are proper teams. Man City is a diddy team compared to those teams. Noone outside Manchester gives a crap about city and therefore 400mill is simply laughable.

Do you have a better suggestion as to how clubs like City can become a "proper" club?

A better suggestion that by messing around your figures and just do some dodgy accounting?

Yeah, how about you go on the way you are going and try to get something going in the CL and challenge for a few titles. (Though that will obv be difficult if you pay over the odds for average players)

Spurs seem to be doing a pretty good job of it.

How come?
A shirt sponsorship deal at the level of a team in the same league as them that doesn't have Champions League football or any European football next season and stadium rights at the same level as 2 other teams in the same league were advertising theirs at seems like "market value" to me.
Having any rule that has to judge what the market value is was always going to have grey areas but don't you think it's generally a positive move? Any rule based on profit alone could be abused, no rule would mean clubs could lose as much as they liked for as long as they liked which is dangerous. It's not a perfect solution but I don't know if there is a better one.

It matters for shit, lol at Man U ever getting banned from the CL, O RLY! They would never do fk all.

It's ridic as where was Spurs' £400m deal once they broke the top 4? Do you think City scoured the globe for the highest bidder?

It's the "Market Value" for the very, very biggest club, then add a few million for good measure. I guess I can only hope Bill Gates buys us then Microsoft pays us £1 billion in "Sponsorship" - based on City's new deal this would be "market value" for a club like Liverpool if they make the top 4 again.

Not sure if that was for comedy value or not but I Loled  :D

Lets take any top player and Nasri is probably a good example. If he has a choice between United and City he will probably choose United based on history and record in the EPL unless we throw more money at him. We have had to do the same for some pretty average players of late, but step by step we evolve from average to better and turf out the average ones. We have a few for sale if anyone interested.
In recent years it has been unfair that clubs like Everton, Spurs, Villa and City have no chance to compete for the top and obviously delighted it is my lot that now have the Golden ticket from Wonka land. It may well end in tears, but going to enjoy it while it lasts.

How so?

Revenue is up. Profit is up. They broke the top 4. Their net spend is down on previous managers.

If they hadn't been in the CL they'd have probably made 4th again.

Maybe I am wrong, my perception is that they have been spending money and haven't won the FA cup for 20 years.

My point wasn't to take the mick out of them (well Maybe), but how can teams like City and Spurs become a "proper" club without doing things like a dodgy stadium deal under the new rules? As  I understand it the rules say that City and Spurs aren't allowed to spend as much as United whose revenue is far in excess of ours so how do they do it?  ;popcorn;

Baron, Spurs have been living well out of their depth for years. Alot of what they have spent has not come from their own turnover it come from Levy's pocket, so I dont think they have been doing things "properly"

I know we have gone years without a trophy but if we'd have spent what Spurs have on their squad and not qualified for the CL for all but 1 season it would be a catastrophe.... Man City are taking the piss but like someone said earlier, I think it was Monda,  there is no way UEFA will ban any of the big or rich clubs from euroope

Agree, in the past tense, but they're becoming self sustainable. Everything in my above post is true. This isn't the Jol or Ramos era. Their numbers are fine. Partially due to huge sales admittedly.

I'm a firm believer of Redknapp being one of the over rated managers but the Spurs owners have done so much more right than wrong in the last 5 years. I have zero doubt that they'll be a huge EPL force in the next few years, without a sugar daddy.

As I said, Spurs are doing it imho.

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Here's the real link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2015243/Liverpool-chief-Ian-Ayre-blasts-Man-City-400m-stadium-deal.html

Yeah read this, but will wait to see what Liverpool do when they finally get a proper stadium (how many years have they been messing about) and see how much the naming rights go for.

As for Spurs, still hoping they buy Adebayor.  ;whistle;

I hope they stick it right up City and sell it for 2 Billion

The spuds tranfer kitty actually comes from Joe Louis' pocket, but that is by the by.

How can a club who do not even own their stadium sell the naming rights?

No problem if they do, just wish they would get on with it.

Manchester City Football Club is delighted to announce that it has teamed up with the global sports video game company, Electronic Arts Inc., as its new partner.

The deal was announced at EA's campus in British Columbia as part of City’s summer tour activity in Canada and is unprecedented in both its scale and scope within the computer game industry.

 ;yippee;

Looks like something else for Uefa to investigate.....

Manchester United have signed a new £40m sponsorship deal for their domestic training kit that exceeds the value of all but five main shirt sponsors in the Premier League.

wow, that's a lot of money for DHL to piss down the drain.

Didn't know they were shareholders in Man U though.

Nothing to investigate. They aren't related parties.

LOL Ed - take off your sky-blue tinted glasses.

Never take them off.

 ;)