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Title: Interesting Live hand Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2011, 05:02:37 PM Live 2/5 game in Vegas. We have an aggro image and we have $1300 stack. Villain in hand is 25ish, has played around 2 orbits and dont nothing out of the ordinary.
We raise UTG+1 to $20 w/ Kh Ks, fold to villain in c/o and he peels ($500stack) Flop is 5h 4s 5c We cbet $30 pretty quickly and he calls after around 6/7 seconds Turn Ad($115ish) We think for around 6 seconds and bet $80 and he quickly goes for chips and under 15 seconds makes it $225 with around $200 behind. We? What is his value raising range here? Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: muckthenuts on July 22, 2011, 05:22:51 PM Definitely have to let this go
Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: boldie on July 22, 2011, 09:34:10 PM Meh, I reckon we're behind here more often than not. I think we could be over complicating things by thinking "Well, he doesn't put us on an Ace...maybe he floated the flop as we're unlikely to have a 5...he doesn't need to have something better than my pretty Kings etc. etc.".
I sigh fold. Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2011, 10:41:16 PM its a clear value bet? or is he folding 10's to turn bet?
Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2011, 10:42:06 PM i rmember when chris brammer played a similar hand to this, he bet turn really small then pot size jammed the river and was called by worse.
Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: DMorgan on July 23, 2011, 05:20:01 AM I'd fold
Doubt a random at 2/5 is aggro enough to turn mid pairs/underpairs into bluffs and we can't really give him credit for getting to the turn with many hands that are still air besides 67/78. He probably called the flop with ace high because he's a station and 'you never have a 4 or a 5', has now turned gin and wants to get it in. I think thats a few more likely scanrio than the guy is fucking with you. He's also giving himself zero fold equity on the river, I think if he was good enough to be FOS here he'd recognise that and make it ~190/ jam river for ~280. Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: pleno1 on July 23, 2011, 11:23:22 AM i folded and he showed me Jc
Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: mondatoo on July 23, 2011, 04:52:58 PM Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: NigDawG on July 24, 2011, 01:36:48 PM i rmember when chris brammer played a similar hand to this, he bet turn really small then pot size jammed the river and was called by worse. what a sicko :) Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2011, 03:45:00 PM i rmember when chris brammer played a similar hand to this, he bet turn really small then pot size jammed the river and was called by worse. what a sicko :) :D:D:D Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: muckthenuts on July 24, 2011, 03:55:26 PM its a clear value bet? or is he folding 10's to turn bet? Yeah you're only getting two streets max out of smaller pairs once that card peels so i think you should check the ace, then the percieved credibility of your river value bet will be decreased Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2011, 04:21:56 PM its a clear value bet? or is he folding 10's to turn bet? Yeah you're only getting two streets max out of smaller pairs once that card peels so i think you should check the ace, then the percieved credibility of your river value bet will be decreased you no reply to my pm :( Title: Re: Interesting Live hand Post by: paulhouk03 on July 24, 2011, 04:27:23 PM ask for a chop?
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