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Title: Norway
Post by: kinboshi on July 23, 2011, 08:10:18 AM
First the bomb in Oslo, then the indiscriminate murder of over 80 at a youth camp.

Seems to be all the more shocking because it's young people.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356



Title: Re: Norway
Post by: Josedinho on July 23, 2011, 08:36:42 AM
Horrible stuff. Went to bed thinking that although it's still upsetting, after a bomb attack and a gunman on the loose that they were lucky to have deaths limited to 10. Woke up this morning shocked although not sure age makes a difference to me.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: ACE2M on July 23, 2011, 09:26:40 AM
horrific. RIP.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 23, 2011, 09:42:31 AM
i spent a lot of time yesterday speaking to my mate Jan Bjorsland from Norway. Some of you may know him from playing pretty reg at dtd last year. He works on security at the parliment and was luckily enough to be working the night shift so was at home when the bomb went off. thoughts with Norway


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: Claw75 on July 23, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
incredibly sad and shocking, and, rightly or wrongly, the fact that so many of the victims were very young does stir up emotions much more for me. 

RIP


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: Woodsey on July 23, 2011, 11:26:12 AM
Shocking sure, never understood what age has to do with the shock value though tbh.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: boldie on July 23, 2011, 04:29:32 PM
Shocking sure, never understood what age has to do with the shock value though tbh.

This, 91 people shot and blown up is pretty horrific no matter what their age is.

Amazed they captured the guy alive TBH

Also despise the Daily Mail again (as usual) "http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017851/Norway-attacks-gunman-Anders-Behring-Breivik-right-wing-extremist-hated-Muslims.html"

Amazing how they sneak in Muslim terrorists in the coverage of this story.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: nirvana on July 23, 2011, 06:37:57 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Title: Re: Norway
Post by: boldie on July 23, 2011, 06:54:13 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 23, 2011, 07:09:44 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.


or they had it coming

Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".




Title: Re: Norway
Post by: boldie on July 23, 2011, 07:22:11 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 23, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?
i guess from your heritage he may have not been best friends with my grandad during the war ;)


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 23, 2011, 07:30:18 PM
expexting another post deleted by kinboshi for jingoism now. :)


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: boldie on July 23, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
expexting another post deleted by kinboshi for jingoism now. :)

I love that word...than again, with my heritage I guess you'd expect me to.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: Claw75 on July 23, 2011, 07:34:24 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Not sure whether having kids or not really makes a difference to your outlook on things. Only time I can recall off the top of my head being genuinely moved to tears by a news story was following the dunblane massacre and that was long before became a mother


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: kinboshi on July 23, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
expexting another post deleted by kinboshi for jingoism now. :)


Is that what you expect?


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 23, 2011, 08:14:21 PM
expexting another post deleted by kinboshi for jingoism now. :)


Is that what you expect?
no. i was born in germany dont you know


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: nirvana on July 23, 2011, 08:34:46 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



tbh, in that scenario, I might not say it out loud but I would think it


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: nirvana on July 23, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Not sure whether having kids or not really makes a difference to your outlook on things. Only time I can recall off the top of my head being genuinely moved to tears by a news story was following the dunblane massacre and that was long before became a mother

Yeah, but you're a girl and generally I'm right so I probably am with this too.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 23, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?
i guess from your heritage he may have not been best friends with my grandad during the war ;)

Thought Boldie was Dutch???????????
omg. so who is german?


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: Geo the Sarge on July 23, 2011, 09:38:17 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?
i guess from your heritage he may have not been best friends with my grandad during the war ;)

Thought Boldie was Dutch???????????

Lol...........a five year woosh, must be a blonde record

Geo


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: kinboshi on July 23, 2011, 10:21:59 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?
i guess from your heritage he may have not been best friends with my grandad during the war ;)

Thought Boldie was Dutch???????????

Lol...........a five year woosh, must be a blonde record

Geo

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: boldie on July 23, 2011, 10:34:07 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?
i guess from your heritage he may have not been best friends with my grandad during the war ;)

Thought Boldie was Dutch???????????

Lol...........a five year woosh, must be a blonde record

Geo

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

lol..5 years indeed..Very impressive. Massive congrats to Tank and Boshi, a 5 year woosh must be some sort of world record.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: kinboshi on July 23, 2011, 11:27:11 PM
Out of interest, do those who don't find the young ages of the victims more disturbing have chlldren ?

I think it's natural to see it as slightly more tragic than if it was a party of much older people due to the lack of having lived anything like a full life with all the opportunities that would present.

On the Amy Winehouse thread it seems to be more emotive for people cause she was only 27, whereas if she had been a 65 year old soak I don't think people would bat an eyelid.



Nah, if someone goes into an old folk's home and starts shooting the place up, killing 84 people the same people won't go "Ah well, they had a good innings".



or they had it coming

You've never met my grandad have you?
i guess from your heritage he may have not been best friends with my grandad during the war ;)

Thought Boldie was Dutch???????????

Lol...........a five year woosh, must be a blonde record

Geo

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

lol..5 years indeed..Very impressive. Massive congrats to Tank and Boshi, a 5 year woosh must be some sort of world record.

A meta-game whoosh.


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: GreekStein on July 24, 2011, 03:10:01 AM
Wow horrible story.

Rip.

(I feel more saddened because its young people and I don't have kids. Well, herbie is my adopted son).


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: smashedagain on July 24, 2011, 04:04:37 AM
Wow horrible story.

Rip.

(I feel more saddened because its young people and I don't have kids. Well, herbie is my adopted son).
cheers. my kids are like your grand kids. X


Title: Re: Norway
Post by: Manuel on July 24, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
I'm just really heartened that in this day and age when you repeatedly get nutters using the dramatic killing of scores of people in order to draw broad attention to their crazy little manifesto, that the media especially permanews channels collectively decide refuse to encourage them, and instead give the story only a brief mention at the very end of the bulletin.









Oh wait...