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Title: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: muckthenuts on July 24, 2011, 03:09:59 PM
Included villians name as i imagine lots of you will know him (got it from Bluff mag this month). For those that don't as far as i know villian is a well established pro, i've played with him a couple times and as far as i've seen he's very competent and hand reads well.

On the table he's been playing pretty solid over the last 3/4 orbits. He'd likely view me as TAG, i've 3bet peoples opens a couple times but been mostly card dead so haven't opened that much. Prob assumes i'm at least a decent player.

Blinds 500/1000/100
Eff Stacks ~46k

I open Qs Js in ep to 2100. Folds to villian in the BB who calls.

Flop  3h 7h 3s

He checks, I cbet 2500. Get called fairly fast

Turn 7s

He checks. I think for a bit then check. Thoughts? I think he'll realise i'm very unlikely to hold a 7 here and there wouldn't be much i can do vs the invariable raise. But there are now lots of possible outs for me on the river plus i figured i could still potentially win it there with a bloof.

River Qc
He quickly checks. I think for a while then bet 3500. He reaches to his stack and without much thought places in around ~11000. Hmm. Hmm hmm hmm.


What do blonde? And how's my line?


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
imagining that he isnt THAT likely to reverse float the flop with total badugi than his range is prolly pairs from 55 to TT and hands like  4s 5s,  Aspades Ts etc, although you having the Q and J does remove several flush draw combo's as popular S/S combo's to peel pre like JT/QT/J9 etc and a player like rob who tends to be pretty solid prolly folds a decent amount of lower suited 1/2gaps as you're not mega deep. And by the same logic his 7x combo's are also prolly reasonabley thin, 78s/79s/A7s/77.

Either way given how snug you claim to have been playing OTT the main chunk of your value range OTT is a overpair, which he will prolly expect you to bet again due to how thin a range of 7x's and 3x's you can have and obv if he donks your not folding so would expect him to chk almost entire range OTT, river is a sick card for your range and i assume he knows you realize this and expects you to bet 100%, given how the best part of his range is made up of marginal showdown hands like 55/66 etc then my decision to call/fold would be based on how likely i think he is to turn these into a bluff. If he is capable of doing so then I think i'm gonna call because now combinatorically the range of hands he can bluff with is much wider than the legit value range, if he cant bluff with those then its prolly a release as his spade/spade combo's are imo slightly less than his 7x combo's.


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: smashedagain on July 24, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
imagining that he isnt THAT likely to reverse float the flop with total badugi than his range is prolly pairs from 55 to TT and hands like  4s 5s,  Aspades Ts etc, although you having the Q and J does remove several flush draw combo's as popular S/S combo's to peel pre like JT/QT/J9 etc and a player like rob who tends to be pretty solid prolly folds a decent amount of lower suited 1/2gaps as you're not mega deep. And by the same logic his 7x combo's are also prolly reasonabley thin, 78s/79s/A7s/77.

Either way given how snug you claim to have been playing OTT the main chunk of your value range OTT is a overpair, which he will prolly expect you to bet again due to how thin a range of 7x's and 3x's you can have and obv if he donks your not folding so would expect him to chk almost entire range OTT, river is a sick card for your range and i assume he knows you realize this and expects you to bet 100%, given how the best part of his range is made up of marginal showdown hands like 55/66 etc then my decision to call/fold would be based on how likely i think he is to turn these into a bluff. If he is capable of doing so then I think i'm gonna call because now combinatorically the range of hands he can bluff with is much wider than the legit value range, if he cant bluff with those then its prolly a release as his spade/spade combo's are imo slightly less than his 7x combo's.
pretty much agree but reckon you got an extra "c" in there. also respect Angood as a decent enough player but those that know him say he is a bit of a cock


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
imagining that he isnt THAT likely to reverse float the flop with total badugi than his range is prolly pairs from 55 to TT and hands like  4s 5s,  Aspades Ts etc, although you having the Q and J does remove several flush draw combo's as popular S/S combo's to peel pre like JT/QT/J9 etc and a player like rob who tends to be pretty solid prolly folds a decent amount of lower suited 1/2gaps as you're not mega deep. And by the same logic his 7x combo's are also prolly reasonabley thin, 78s/79s/A7s/77.

Either way given how snug you claim to have been playing OTT the main chunk of your value range OTT is a overpair, which he will prolly expect you to bet again due to how thin a range of 7x's and 3x's you can have and obv if he donks your not folding so would expect him to chk almost entire range OTT, river is a sick card for your range and i assume he knows you realize this and expects you to bet 100%, given how the best part of his range is made up of marginal showdown hands like 55/66 etc then my decision to call/fold would be based on how likely i think he is to turn these into a bluff. If he is capable of doing so then I think i'm gonna call because now combinatorically the range of hands he can bluff with is much wider than the legit value range, if he cant bluff with those then its prolly a release as his spade/spade combo's are imo slightly less than his 7x combo's.
pretty much agree but reckon you got an extra "c" in there. also respect Angood as a decent enough player but those that know him say he is a bit of a cock

has a ridic name for a poker player


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: titaniumbean on July 24, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
foldaments


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: Royal Flush on July 24, 2011, 10:09:46 PM
Who is he? Someone else asked me about him a while back and i didn't know him.


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: titaniumbean on July 24, 2011, 10:21:12 PM
Who is he? Someone else asked me about him a while back and i didn't know him.

Vic cash game grinder.

Style rhymes with hit.


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: smashedagain on July 24, 2011, 10:27:03 PM
Who is he? Someone else asked me about him a while back and i didn't know him.

Vic cash game grinder.

Style rhymes with hit.
playing style or dress sense andy? i think he is also colour blind so struggles with chips. he had 20% of chips in play with 19 left in a dtd deepstack (i know coz i gave in 9.9% of em ) then was out 15th. i thought he played well and he just won a pkr live thing i think.


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
Who is he? Someone else asked me about him a while back and i didn't know him.

his initials are R.Angood.

born into bliss


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: Bilybob88 on August 11, 2011, 07:03:36 AM
It was a good pass I had Kd7d, felt that you had just over cards so would have to bet the river as I was repping a middling to low pair, plus if you had a Q then you would have to call a check raise on the river.

Rob


Title: Re: £300 LPC ME hand vs Rob Angood
Post by: SuuPRlim on August 11, 2011, 12:18:30 PM
River is a sick card for your range and i assume he knows you realize this and expects you to bet 100%.

given how the best part of his range is made up of marginal showdown hands like 55/66

his spade/spade combo's are imo slightly less than his 7x combo's

Looks like we might have nailed this one.  ;woohoo;