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Title: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2011, 11:06:06 AM It is the annual Gibraltar Masters series, whoever wins gets a trophy and is crowned champion of GIb. I'm the biggest winner in the casino this year and I really wanted to win this comp as lots of colleagues etc were playng.
Starting stack is 15k, I have got myself up to 26k but have a really loose image. Hijac and c/o both limp at 50/100 with effective stacks of 15k. I make it 425 on the button with Qs 9s, SB and BB call aswell as the limpers Flop Ks 9c 4c BB donks 1400. Folds to me and I call. Turn is 2s. He donks 2k and I call River is Qh and he quickly checks. There is 10k in the pot and we have 11k effective What do we like? b/f jam b/induce/call check back bet sizings? Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: SuuPRlim on July 31, 2011, 11:30:21 AM how many chippppppppps does our boy have?
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: redarmi on July 31, 2011, 11:33:54 AM Weird spot. Not really sure what he is repping at all....KT/KJ? I suppose TcJc or JcQc makes some sense too but I don't think I am folding so probably betting like 3.5-4k and calling it off. Any reads on villain?
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2011, 11:36:32 AM i had 26 at start of hand, 11k effective on river tho
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2011, 12:21:07 PM It's obv villain dependant but probs a jam for me
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: redarmi on July 31, 2011, 12:25:52 PM Obv deference to MC champ ;-) but what do you think is really calling us with worse here? AK is pretty unlikely so we are relying almost entirely on K9 and total spew from KT/KJ aren't we?
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: outragous76 on July 31, 2011, 01:09:41 PM 100% check behind to limp/call donkers
You are beating KJ IMO, and he probs ck/calls better 2 pairs Bad players don't bet non nut hands on the river when they can check call Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 31, 2011, 01:16:23 PM Deffo betting 3-4k here.
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2011, 01:45:22 PM If I'm not jamming I'm bet folding 3-4k
Bet calling is pretty tez imo, just doesn't seem like we're ever gonna be winning then. Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: AlexMartin on July 31, 2011, 02:50:21 PM jam, get hero'd by some KJ/AA/AK hand. with described image i dont think its close.
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: DMorgan on July 31, 2011, 02:57:34 PM Bet/folding 3.5k but its really really close imo. Definitely check back vs anyone decent
fwiw I think the flop call is pretty spewy in this spot Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: outragous76 on July 31, 2011, 02:58:15 PM jam, get hero'd by some KJ/AA/AK hand. with described image i dont think its close. Limp call with AA 3 way? Fairly hopeful Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2011, 03:03:48 PM Bet/folding 3.5k but its really really close imo. Definitely check back vs anyone decent fwiw I think the flop call is pretty spewy in this spot its hard to flop pairs dan and he is spanish :( he can def have worse 9's too otf right? Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: redarmi on July 31, 2011, 03:04:57 PM I don't see how he ever really has AK/AA here. It has to be a tiny part of his range. Can see how b/f could be better than b/c but I really think both are better than jamming.
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2011, 03:11:16 PM Jamming>>>>>>bet/calling ainec for me
Bet/fold perhaps nutline though Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: SuuPRlim on July 31, 2011, 03:57:22 PM I dont thin I could bring myself to bet/fold, although I prolly should
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: redarmi on July 31, 2011, 04:26:08 PM Think it comes down to the basic reason why we are betting. Surely the only two reasons to bet are to get better hands to fold and worse hands to call. If we jam we don't acheive either of these. If we bet 3-4k then hands like KJ/KT possibly call so we get value out of them and sometimes we induce him to spew because of our image. Whether it is b/f or b/c comes down to how often you expect the player to fall into that trap and that is a hard call without any read but I just don't understand what we acheive by jamming here.
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: DMorgan on July 31, 2011, 07:24:31 PM he can def have worse 9's too otf right? Very optimistic imo :( Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: SuuPRlim on July 31, 2011, 09:32:06 PM I think bet/folding this type of spot will lose fashion very quickly
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 09:31:36 AM i bet 5..6k as i thought he jammed the river close to 0% of the time.
he jammed for 6k more. puuuuuuuuuuuke Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: skolsuper on August 01, 2011, 09:58:05 AM fold flop.
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: AlexMartin on August 01, 2011, 06:38:30 PM well if ur betting it has to be b/f (even if uv been rly fking the table over i dont think b/c is good), much prefer jam with described image though. fyl though and if he showed a bluff hes a king.
Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: AlexMartin on August 01, 2011, 06:39:19 PM jam, get hero'd by some KJ/AA/AK hand. with described image i dont think its close. Limp call with AA 3 way? Fairly hopeful its live in gibraltar, guy can have anything! Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 06:39:47 PM i insta though puuuuuuke, really close to folding my cards but got one of those live experiences where you kinda just get some feeling and flick it in.
he had k10. Title: Re: Part 1 Gibraltar masters Post by: outragous76 on August 01, 2011, 08:02:13 PM i insta though puuuuuuke, really close to folding my cards but got one of those live experiences where you kinda just get some feeling and flick it in. he had k10. you played it well on every street :D *shakes head* |