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Title: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Watertight on January 05, 2006, 12:37:34 AM ----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tight87 [ ] Paavo123: raises to 22580.18 and is all-in Fly Half: calls 22580.18 Tight87: calls 22580.18 Iceman013: folds _tarka_: calls 16580.18 ----- FLOP ----- [ ] _tarka_: checks Fly Half: checks Tight87: bets 26273.50 and is all-in _tarka_: folds Fly Half: calls 26273.50 ----- TURN ----- [ ][] ----- RIVER ----- [ ][] ----- SHOW DOWN ----- Tight87: shows [ ] (A Pair of Nines, King high) Paavo123: shows [ ] (High Card Ace) Fly Half: shows [ ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high) Fly Half collects 52547 from Side pot #1 Fly Half collects 97070.72 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot 149617.72 Main pot 97070.72 Side pot #1 52547 | Rake 0 Board [ ] Seat 2: _tarka_ (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: Fly Half showed [ ] and won (149617.72) with Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high Seat 8: Tight87 (button) lost Seat 9: Iceman013 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Correct move to stick my chips in considering it was a final table ? Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Royal Flush on January 05, 2006, 01:09:59 AM What did you have?? 99?
Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Watertight on January 05, 2006, 01:37:30 AM yeh had pocket 9's . Think i should of considered how massive the chip leaders stack was .
Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Wardonkey on January 05, 2006, 01:42:37 AM Review that hand history mate. It lacks a lot of information which makes a meaningful analysis impossible...
Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Watertight on January 05, 2006, 01:45:37 AM ------HAND 5------
Game #1286318784: Hold'em NL (3000/6000) - 2006/01/04 - 23:56:08 (UK) Table "Tourney 1666101 - 1" Seat 8 is the button. Seat 2: _tarka_ (130348.30 in chips) Seat 3: Paavo123 (23330.18 in chips) Seat 5: Fly Half (364259.18 in chips) Seat 8: Tight87 (49603.68 in chips) Seat 9: Iceman013 (62458.66 in chips) Iceman013: posts the ante 750 _tarka_: posts the ante 750 Paavo123: posts the ante 750 Fly Half: posts the ante 750 Tight87: posts the ante 750 Iceman013: posts small blind 3000 _tarka_: posts big blind 6000 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Tight87 [9h 9d] Paavo123: raises to 22580.18 and is all-in Fly Half: calls 22580.18 Tight87: calls 22580.18 Iceman013: folds _tarka_: calls 16580.18 ----- FLOP ----- [2h 7s Tc] _tarka_: checks Fly Half: checks Tight87: bets 26273.50 and is all-in _tarka_: folds Fly Half: calls 26273.50 ----- TURN ----- [2h 7s Tc][6c] ----- RIVER ----- [2h 7s Tc 6c][Kc] ----- SHOW DOWN ----- Tight87: shows [9h 9d] (A Pair of Nines, King high) Paavo123: shows [Qd As] (High Card Ace) Fly Half: shows [Ks 2s] (Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high) Fly Half collects 52547 from Side pot #1 Fly Half collects 97070.72 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot 149617.72 Main pot 97070.72 Side pot #1 52547 | Rake 0 Board [2h 7s Tc 6c Kc] Seat 2: _tarka_ (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: Fly Half showed [Ks 2s] and won (149617.72) with Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high Seat 8: Tight87 (button) lost Seat 9: Iceman013 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Wardonkey on January 05, 2006, 01:54:29 AM Your all-in is more than reasonable, at this stage you don't need a great (or any) hand to push in. If your worrying that pushing all-in with 99 and only 4 big blinds might be overly aggressive then your problems probably lie in the other direction.
Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: jezza777 on January 05, 2006, 01:58:57 AM your all in is fine although I would make the move preflop, If you think the 99 is ahead and worthy of a call then you must push in .
Also you called preflop then called an all in on the flop there is no aggression shown from you in this hand in fact I think you played it too weakly. ( i only comment on this due to the title of the post). good luck Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Watertight on January 05, 2006, 01:59:54 AM Yeh think i should maybe loosen up on the final table happening quite a bit at the moment , hit the final table and seem to tighten up . Was playing well earlier stealing blinds and got to the final table about 3rd in chip count although the chip leader then still had a massive stack. I then lost a few chips and the next thing i know i was pushing with 99 . Think i need to start playing a wider range of hands at final table .
Cheers for the advice :D Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: jezza777 on January 05, 2006, 02:04:03 AM No sorry you push on the flop so you played the hand fine, I just would have pushed preflop (it's late!)
Title: Re: Eager to learn was i unlucky or overly agressive, Advice welcome Post by: Wardonkey on January 05, 2006, 02:49:30 AM Apologies
I just read thru' your hand history again and I must confess I was a bit lazy the first time. The situation is in fact a lot more marginal I had thought. You have 8 big blinds so you have a little room for manouver. The smallest stack has pushed in and been flat called by the monster stack, there are 2 players to act behind you. Your flat call was the worst play, as you gave tarka the odds to see cheap flop. Your choices here are pass or all-in. I'm probably passing here, I much prefer to get my chips in first, and you are probably against a minimum of 2 overcards. |