Title: Levelling wars Post by: George2Loose on August 21, 2011, 01:15:33 AM Grand prix. 400/800/100. I have 28k. Villian has 60ish. He has obtained his chips by flopping a set of eights early against aces. Not been too active since apart from getting 30k in against Vargas by 5 bet jamming AKss and getting there against KK.
I have my usual image. Active- in loads of pots. 3 betting with frequency. I have 3 bets 65dd and been cold called by Rich Berridge OTB and getting 3 streets of value on a K6463 board (jamming the river) Villian opens 2nd to act to 2100. There's a passive lady in the big blind so he could be light. I look down at 2 red jacks and 3 bet to 5225. Villian tanks for about a minute then peels. So i have around 23-24k behind Flop is Kc6s4s. Villian looks at my stack and then shoves in a stack of purples to set me in. Another nice overbet spot. We shoud? Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: the rage on August 21, 2011, 01:44:19 AM I would fold. You have a good stack and really dont need to take blind gambles at this stage. If villian has a king you are a big dog, if he has a flush draw you may still be the underdog (AQss), or a small favourite.
Without a really good read i can't see how you can possibly take the chance that villian is making a bluff oop. I would expect at least a flush draw from villian. Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: action man on August 21, 2011, 02:41:46 AM to put it simply. In these spots you're usually either very wrong or a little bit right, i used to call in these spots a lot expecting 99/TT to be more frequent than KQ KJ, nfd's but they seldom are from my experience and you look a tool when he asks if u have AK before flipping QK and then looking at you like you're the biggest clown in the room. When I do call in these spots online, I usually hover my curser over the window closer so I can snap close the table when some tool berates me for calling off :)
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: muckthenuts on August 21, 2011, 04:35:48 AM Folding
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: Boba Fett on August 21, 2011, 05:17:44 AM Live clowns rarely jam light here. I consider a call v someone competent
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: SuuPRlim on August 21, 2011, 06:18:28 AM how the fuck you get urself into these spots george
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: paulhouk03 on August 21, 2011, 08:13:32 AM Live clowns rarely jam light here. I consider a call v someone competent +1 Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: Junior Senior on August 21, 2011, 09:37:35 AM Fold as played
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: pleno1 on August 23, 2011, 12:05:25 PM Live clowns rarely jam light here. I consider a call v someone competent i totally agree with this and think the opposite. Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: The Squid on August 24, 2011, 05:54:32 PM Not folding. Dodging one overcard and a flush draw.
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: The Squid on August 24, 2011, 05:58:05 PM Oh sometimes he has aces. Still not folding.
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: George2Loose on August 24, 2011, 06:06:58 PM Whilst I was tanking (for about 4 mins) he calls clock. Does this make it an easier fold?
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: the rage on August 24, 2011, 06:57:33 PM I'm sticking with the fold regardless, but, villian calling the clock would make me even more likely to fold here. To my way of thinking, the fact that you've tanked means that he knows that you certainly don't have a set and are highly unlikely to have aces or ace king. It would lead me to believe that he probably has aces, which he is now very confident that he is ahead with, maybe even queens.
Also, if he thinks he's behind and you appear to be seriously close to folding, i dont think that he would want to interrrupt your thought processes by calling the clock on you. I've had very little experience of clock calling situations, but, trying to put myself in villian's shoes that's how it seems to me. I guess it goes back to the title of your post? Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: danny_b on August 26, 2011, 11:32:26 PM Slowroll
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: h on August 27, 2011, 10:46:54 AM Slowroll Why slowroll its obvious villian has AK George was just thinking too much Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: pleno1 on August 28, 2011, 06:28:51 PM clock is strength imo
Title: Re: Levelling wars Post by: danny_b on August 30, 2011, 11:50:43 PM Slowroll Why slowroll its obvious villian has AK George was just thinking too much Disagree. He 5-bet jams AK earlier, but now he wants to (tank) call pre then snap get it in when he flops?? Not for me. |