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I never really post on fourms , I only just read .... But today I would like your views/ opinions on the following ;

Lewis and I were having a debate.. Lewis said its not possible to be a winning player everyday , where I think it is possible .

What are your views , do you think it is possible ?

Lewis is right.

I guess in theory if you can play enough hands and are a winning player then it's possible.

I doubt anybody's ever done it though.

Im going to try put it to the test..

I'm going too one table 1c/2c ... Sit down with $2 but I cannot leave until im at least one buy in up, $2 in profit .. Im going to try this for a year - if I reload for more, then I still have to be double the total buy in up, for the day.

Might try PS DYM SNG?

If I have one loosing day , Obv I fail but I would like to see over a year the stats.

maybe I have to much time on my hands...

can be done but not at cash.

Why not in cash?.. Views please :)

too much variance/rake.

I think I could probably win every day for a year if i was playing lots of $1 hu games (possibly) but I doubt anyone has done it before because anyone who can do it could be making more money playing slightly bigger games but where they'd be having losing days too.

Not possible with these targets.

If you really want to do it then as soon as you're up any amount just cash out.

Basically if you lose you need to keep grinding until you win. If you get up any amount why keep playing and risk a losing day?

Doing it this way it may just be possible.

Also I'd buy in for the minimum at first. If you lose the lot you can buy in for slightly more and have a chance of doubling up to be up for the day.

Actually this could be an interesting challenge.

Might try it myself.

How many winning days can be continuously achieved no matter how small the amount?

Good feedback,

So maybe I need to change my theory..

only play $1 SNG and have a max amount I can 'lose' a day?

The reason for this I have a prob-bet .. if I can do it over the course of a year without have a loosing day il get myself $5k ... worth a try right??

This just looks like a potential bad martingale experiment to me.  You end up at $1/$2 or a $100 DYM SNG or wherever you get uncomfortable much sooner than you think.  And you wouldn't be playing 1c/2c if you were comfortable at $1/$2.

give up now

I hear there's a guy on poker Encore called GreekStein1 who'd lose a few dollars a day to you for 50% of the $5k. Bink.

How much do you have to make a day, 1 cent, zero or 1 buy in.  If it was 1c, then I guess it would be doable, if a little boring?

Easy to be 1cent in profit a day, but does that make you a winning player $3.65 over a year? I guess it does, but the challenge ive set myself might be abit harder.. but I believe achievable.


Doobs, Ild play the same stake throughout the whole year, not moving up.. ild have to make at least one buy in a day at 1c/2c .. so $4 200bb.

If you don't achieve it do you have to give the other person $5k?

If so run away from this bet now because it's terrible.

If it's a freeroll then of course it's worth a go.

Why would you be bothered about making a full bi per day if you can win the bet just making 1c?

If you win 1bi per day you still only get $730 minus a shit load of rake (in comparison).

What you're after is the $5k so just make it as easy as possible.

No I dont have to give anyway any $$. But Lewis is very positive that it cannot be done that hes said $5k.

I would say its impossible. Those micro limit tables are a minefield esp on Stars. Some sessions you just simply cant win. Unless the sessions each day were 1000's of hands and you kept reloading then i wouldnt bother.

Get some rules clarified and we might be able to tell you if it's possible.

If it has to be any amount no matter how small then you could maybe do it but it'll be difficult.

If you set yourself any kind of target above 1c then he's right it can't be done.

It'd be interesting to get a proper high volume cash player to check their HEM stats to see how many days they have where they are never up at any stage.

Gone back through 4 years of records and the best run I've had is 21 days.... quite a few good spells broken by < 1 BI losses.

Not practically possible IMO for someone to go a  year without a number of losing days, if they were playing 'normally'.
May be possible to manufacture a way to achieve it.

1 bi your biggest losing day mr golden?

Obv wasn't replying to your post Matt. :)

As long as 'bi' is short for Bankroll...yes.

Norrrrr!!!!!

You just ruined the easiest joke ever!!

Bastardo!!

Well im pretty sure I could beat 2nl..  ;carlocitrone; I wouldn't get myself in such a hole in 2nl that it wasn't possible to beat and test my theory.

When lewis reads this, we will come up with some rules.. and then put it to the test..

over-curiosity has got the best of me on this debate

Fuck it I'm going to do it anyway


Thanks for that Neil.

Would still be interested to get some stats off some proper players.

as above...  stat's over a year to be posted...

Yes you could probably beat it long term although even that's not easy because of the rake.

Unfortunately one day isn't long term which is the reason it's impossible playing normally.

Basically anything that says you can't cash out the instant you're up any amount no matter how small and this is impossible.

For example if Lewis says you must play a minimum of 100 hands per day I think it becomes impossible.

I don't think it's possible. Even with the idea that you could cash out when your up 1c, I still think you won't have enough free time to dedicate to this challenge.

I mean, say you get in a 5buyin hole at the start of a day, it might take thousands of hands to get out of that hole and in the black again, which may be possible to achieve if you had the entire day free. But since you have a job, you just won't have the time to grind of out the hole.

Nice idea though, change the parameters a bit and you could have a good bet.

I think it could be done. Would take that side in a bet if I could pick the horse.

Playing normally, or just getting at least £0.01 in profit each day?

The question is profit every day right?

Profit everyday ..

when lewis gets online and see's this il get him to post the rules ect.

I do have a job but  im freelance.. the art of dealing as and when I want as you know.. I guess I do have a lot more free time in the day then i ever do at night so finding a good time in the day wheres theres a good table might be hard... but im pretty sure il have a few hours each day to try it out.

If you run like God you might last a month.

Especially doing it part-time around a job.  One day you'll start on a downswing and run out of time before you can grind it back.

If I was trying to estimate the chances, I'd say it's about 80-90% likely you'll fail within 2 weeks, purely down to the variance, especially if you're trying to win a buy-in each day, rather than a 1c profit for it to count.

you have to win every single day for a whole year? Sick sick efforts!

I'll lay you 5-1 you cant do it.

How about you can't have a losing day all year, but you don't have to play every day? Say you have to play at least 300 days and win in all of those. Cos surely will having a part time job, other commitments, friends, social life (?!) therell be days where you just can't put any decent volume in so you're bound to having a losing day in one of those.

I reckon it could be done under those conditions.

Actually did you say that it had to be one tabling? No way it can be done if so.

im willing to do it, but id have to bet big, 20k+

i'll lay you 5-1 on $10k.

wowww, serious? playing any game i want?

if so im in.

Any games, any stakes impossible imo, but would love to see anyone try.

I would do this for sure if I got lots of action, it means you cant take holidays and stuff though right?

you have to make a profit at poker playing in online cash games for every single day in a calender year. you're on.

ah cash gamesa is nver 5-1, not even close, hu sng's could very well be though.

Ok, if you have a rule that you can't play more than 4 different stakes in a single day then on

If you wanna do a bet where you have to be in profit every day out of 30 @ HU sng's playing only 2 stakes then we can disscussssss :)

Alex, I like that idea better... as I would need days off for holiday ect and big tours.. prehaps i need to make 'x' amount in a day for 300 days ?

Lewis will be home in a hour , We will talk about it , post up what my mission is and then il make a new alias on a site and then play so it can be recorded on PTR and il use HEM

I like that there is many views on this, I thought ild get some abuse for posting something like this.. ( thinking it was stupid lol )

if anybody wants to add anything that thinks it will work better .. ie hu/dym/cash let me know

Looking at it, I think dym is defo out. The rake is too high at the lower levels, and you get plenty of sick beats so losing days are inevitable.
I guess hu depends how good you are at it.

If you could more than 1 table then profit everyday might be possible on ipoker. They have a lot of 2nl tables running and standard lower than stars.

It´s incredibly difficult imo. One key question that seems to have been ommitted is are you consistently a winning player over a significant sample? I think someone who is a consistent winner over a long period like Pleno is probably still not better than 10/1. I agree with the suggestion that HU sng´s afford the best chance of success. gl with it, can´t fault a 5k freeroll.

like $0.10 hu sngs would surrreelly be beatable, I thinkj that this could be done upto $5 sngs, my gf plays them everynight and has an roi of around 15% over a couple hundred games and shed never played poekr before.

Would this take into account rakeback btw?

FYP

I don't play online very often ... I never want to be a pro , I just like the game and enjoy playing it . I play a few satellites now and then ship the 215 then cash out .. Then play some more but that's only now and then ... I got lucky last year at DTD as a very under avg player ... * cough fish cough* so I couldn't say I've got much experience. However, I've  learnt so much move over the last year which I believe I have a much better thought process ( with the help of Lewis ) .
Mehhh it's a long shot I know , but worth the freeroll IMO .

I'm interested to know if it's just possible to achieve ..

@Pleno - you can play any format of poker, but now more than 2 different stakes in any one day and once you start at one format you must continue for the rest of the day at this. You have to be winning every day out of 30 played in a 32day period. (2days off)

R.E rakeback - IDK how we'd do this as it isn't daily, but sure include it.

What do you think is a fair price if we were to bet? (which we can)

@Christie - It's a great challenge, and GL if you take it up! I play online 6 days a week and on average I win about 60% of my sessions, I've had a run this year of 17 straight winning online sessions and that is the best I think I've ever had. If we could play perfectly and be unaffected by our emotions for every hand it possibly be feasible, but sometimes I wake up and judgement is a little off, I'm a bit impatient etc and that's hard to turn around within a day.

Be fun to try, it's absolutely a great idea to try and win every time you play!  I think i'd have to bet against you/anyone achieving this though :(

in for this :) i have a unlimited bankroll? can do rakeback/30 and then + daily amount.

How many days do you think you've had where you've never been up at any stage whatsoever?

I tried to look at my HEM but there is no filter for this. if i was to guess I'd say that 5-10% of my losing sessions I was never winning at any stage it's not particularly frequent but it's certainly not out of the ordinary at all

I think i might want to tweak the terms slightly before we bet, depending ofc what price you want/how much you wanna bet.

im so so pumped for this. willing to bet close to 5k, dpending on the odds.

I think I want a minimum volume stipulation

10 games per day of hu sng?