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Title: BvB spot deep in Ongame Sunday 200k GTD
Post by: Boba Fett on August 30, 2011, 02:56:13 PM
Seat 1: weedooo (163,660 in chips) 
Seat 2: freebetya (224,571 in chips) 
Seat 3: fettissick (266,268 in chips) 
Seat 4: kmichael144 (590,993 in chips) 
Seat 5: OPR.COMTHO (274,238 in chips) 
Seat 7: TheGrinders8 (128,943 in chips) 
Seat 9: notoanfield (152,639 in chips) 
Seat 10: LuckyKev147 (316,071 in chips) 
 
 ANTES/BLINDS
freebetya posts ante (700), fettissick posts ante (700), kmichael144 posts ante (700), OPR.COMTHO posts ante (700), TheGrinders8 posts ante (700), notoanfield posts ante (700), LuckyKev147 posts ante (700), weedooo posts ante (700), freebetya posts small blind (3,500), fettissick posts big blind (7,000),

PRE-FLOP
6 folds, freebetya raises to 17,200, fettissick calls 17,200. Kd Ts

FLOP [board cards: JH,2C,9S ]
freebetya bets 18,400, fettissick calls 18,400.

TURN [board cards: JH,2C,9S,7D ]
freebetya bets 38,600, fettissick .........

Situation is, we are 10/24/1300 in the Ongame 200k GTD Championchip.  Field is made up mostly of sat qualifiers but does have a decent amount of regs/higher buy in players from other sites, because of this there is usually a few players that get deep nitting it up a lot desperate to ladder.  $36k up top we are ITM just now for $1100.

No history with the villain at all and he has only moved to the table 4 or 5 hands ago so I havent OPR'd him yet and have no idea how he plays.  He has played one hand since moving to the table, opening AQo in the co, OPR.comtho defended BB and they checked it down pretty quickly on T9983 and he lost to 44.

So bvb he opens SB and I flat KTo, I think flat>3bet/fold here but if anyone feels strongly about it feel free to post.  We flop a gutshot to the nuts and an over(and K high might be good) and he leads for about half pot, I flat.  Pretty standard I think.  We turn a double gutter and he bets half pot again so what is the best option to go on and why?

Lack of information on the player so its hard to range him properly but I felt with the situation and the sizing that he could be double barrelling air or semi bluffing KQ/KT/QT/T8(then for value on turn obv)/+other random gutshots, could be betting for value with Jx or for thin value with 9x and although I cant rule it out it didnt feel like QQ-AA

So follow up question, the player in question deffo isnt a reg on the network (at least not on this SN) so usually they either satted in for $5 and have an ABI of $3 and are losing over 3k games or they only log in on Sundays + for other bigger tourneys on the network and have ABI of $150 and less than 500 game sample size, but since I hadnt OPR'ed yet we dont know which one of these we are against.  For each of these players, if we raise the turn, what is their bet/folding range?

Cheers


Title: Re: BvB spot deep in Ongame Sunday 200k GTD
Post by: dreenie on August 31, 2011, 06:56:21 AM
I would 3 bet pre flop, bet 3/4 of pot on flop, if he calls, I'd still jam turn.

As played, I would pass or raise the turn, I know the turn, ur kinda turning ur hand into a semi bluff, but if he folds ur winning the pot, I'd much rather win the pot that way, then have to call off turn, miss river - If he chks river, and u decide to take a stab, what ur trying to repp doesn't make sense, and if u chk back river I'd feel that u gave him the pot too cheap, if he had u out kicked/small small pair etc.

If u 3 bet pre, u now have control of pot, and take a much stronger line, where a lot of players at this stage, are looking at lobby, and thinking of laddering etc... Also if u chk raise turn, u are clearly repping a much stronger hand thaan u actually have..

What happened?


Title: Re: BvB spot deep in Ongame Sunday 200k GTD
Post by: pleno1 on August 31, 2011, 09:51:50 AM
if i 3bet pre dreenie, i def wouldnt bet so big otf