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Title: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: OverTheBorder on September 09, 2011, 07:21:04 PM
Right, been finalling quite a bit but struggling to convert so looking to work on plugging some leaks!

Scenario, final table of 6 max comp, all paid, still 6 handed, this is a live tournament, new to casino so no blatant reads as only played everyone one night only.

Chip Stacks:

Seat 1: 160k
Villain: 18k
Hero: 106k
Seat 4: 135k
Seat 5: 100k
Seat 6: 35k

Blinds:  2k and 4k no ante

Villain seems reasonable but has been crippled first hand of final table Pair over Paid pre and this is the very next hand.  Very next hand its checked round and he shoves SB into my BB.  Therefore a further 14k for me to call.  Obvious first inpressions are he shoves any two here, and its tilt but wonder the following:

Questions:

Is this a call any two scenario or do we work with ranges?
If you think call any two, where do you set the line where you have a calling range....i.e. 20k, 25k etc
If you dont call any two and would be looking at ranges, whats the range?

Basic I know but I think I may be setting my insta call bar too high and appreciate thoughts....flame away!


Title: Re: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: nirvana on September 09, 2011, 11:16:34 PM
I'm calling any 2 here up to about 5 -6 bigs but I wouldnt listen to me


Title: Re: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: outragous76 on September 10, 2011, 09:52:06 AM
Yeah, you could probably fold absolute junk but in the real world I call without looking at my cards here


Title: Re: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: paulhouk03 on September 10, 2011, 10:02:05 AM
im folding quite abit here here theres only 6k in the middle
and
14k is 14% of ur stack
seems to look crap shooty soon so i am pretty sure you can pick dead money else where

ax+ kx s+ k7+ q8+ jt+ any pair

i don thtink calling with 87 etc is right here

but what do i know


Title: Re: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: pleno1 on September 10, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
a2+ k2+ q7+ j10+?  22+  seems tightishly good


Title: Re: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: paulhouk03 on September 10, 2011, 10:39:37 AM
a2+ k2+ q7+ j10+?  22+  seems tightishly good

i was thinking about what jacks i would call with and i think jt is just too pretty



Title: Re: Calling final table shoves - line check
Post by: muckthenuts on September 10, 2011, 12:01:19 PM
He's got slightly too much to call any two. If he had <14k then i'd go with it but here you should be calling like 60%-70% of hands.

22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J4s+,T5s+,96s+,86s+,75s+,65s,A2o+,K2o+,Q5o+,J6o+,T7o+,97o+,87o