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***** Hand History for Game 10875841215 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $109 USD Buy-in Trny: 63413230 Level: 3  Blinds(30/60) - Sunday, September 11, 20:01:51 BST 2011
Table $20,000 Gtd (2351452) Table #35 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10/10
Seat 5: DeanMalenko ( 5,870 )
Seat 7: PlayM0n3yPr0 ( 2,760 )
Seat 8: RyanGiggs ( 3,120 )
Seat 1: SaintJust_ ( 2,620 )
Seat 9: TitzeMirko ( 3,310 )
Seat 4: UKKage ( 2,930 )
Seat 6: analmaxi ( 3,130 )
Seat 10: chazcombes ( 3,000 )
Seat 3: hauabwienix ( 3,355 )
Seat 2: outragous76 ( 4,650 )
Trny: 63413230 Level: 3
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to outragous76 [  Td Tc ]
analmaxi folds
PlayM0n3yPr0 raises [120]
RyanGiggs folds
TitzeMirko folds
chazcombes calls [120]
SaintJust_ calls [120]
outragous76 raises ? ? ? ? ?  ?

call

Yep

raise

Yep

ya always calling. think anything else is bad without a specific dynamic/history with villain

any argument for making it 400 and folding?

I'd always call and think its the best play just opening the floor.

Just to widen it further - i think 99 and TT have jamming merit here but happy to be told otherwise

1. People dont often min raise AA KK pre this early

2. People do min raise 22-99 and also overcall those hands

3. Bad players OFTEN make the assumption - "oh he has jammed he must have AK" and call it of early happy to race - and we have 3 potential spots of this mentality

So basically other than the opener having us crushed - is a jam terrible given we can frequently get called "for a flip" by the underpairs?

I think the blinds and preflop raise are just a bit too small for jamming to be the best play in this spot but if blinds were 50-100+ then it is a reasonable line or maybe even if they had raised to 180 but here I just call and play it out.  Fwiw I think your points re:jamming are all very valid and jamming is probably +EV here it is just a high variance route and probably doesn't deliver the maximum value out of the hand

Yep

Blinds to small to jam imo. Call is best line unless you feel you are -ev and willing to gamble. You could also be gambling to set up image with plan to go for top spots with aggro strategy and higher variance.

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I would go as far as to say none of them have us beat right now. We might be up against KQ QJ but they arent calling off

My reason for posting is exactly the above, we  are calling to set mine with what is probably the best hand right now and probably isnt getting paid too handsomely if we hit our set (we dont think that they have an over pair)  and in actual fact a 467hh type board isnt amazing either (if we miss our T)

peel

given SOME implied odds and how small amount there is in the pot I think jamming is prolly a BIT of a spew, although the reasons for it are pretty sound, but I'm pretty sure the slim % of times we do get called and will be 20% most of the time,  is gonna be pretty hard to turn around into a profitable play, even though as you say the fold% is likely going to be very high

3betspewaments

i'd probably 3bet if theres a fish in the hand, just peel if its all regs.

What would u do with A9o if the opener was female?

zing, i lol'd

yer

Call...