Title: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: class on September 13, 2011, 03:13:56 PM This is my first hand analysis post, please be gentle!!
Tournament is a live casino £30 buy in, with 2 rebuys available (although this hand occurred past the rebuy point, so irrelevant anyway!) Hero - Has most chips on table due to finding big hands at the right time (AA v KK, KK v JJ). Approx chip count at this point 30k. Villian - Old Arab man who is moaning about anything and everything. From peoples bet sizes, about the speed of the dealer, about the breaks every 3 levels - you name it! He has approx 25k. Blinds 800/1600. Folds round to villan on button who limps. He likes to limp / call a lot!! Hero in SB with Ad 8s calls, BB checks his option. (4800 in pot) Flop Ac Jh 2s, hero checks, BB checks, villan bets 5k. Hero calls, BB folds. (14800 in pot) Turn Td, hero checks, villan jams. Hero? Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: boldie on September 13, 2011, 03:31:55 PM Probably depends on what I think his image is of me...but I can see a point for calling here since you flatted his flop bet...he could well have worse so I call.
Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: stato_1 on September 13, 2011, 03:56:09 PM are there antes?
Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: class on September 13, 2011, 04:10:13 PM Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: DMorgan on September 13, 2011, 04:31:28 PM Folding unless he's shown aggro tendencies before
Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: outragous76 on September 13, 2011, 04:36:08 PM Folding unless he's shown aggro tendencies before this probs fold flop to the overbet too Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: class on September 13, 2011, 04:46:41 PM His preflop play was very passive. Regardless of position, he would limp and then call a 4 or even sometimes 5 x BB raise. He would never raise preflop, at least not last night.
I did fold to his jam, I think he had the jack, and made two pair on the turn. It's either that or air, I feel. Thanks for your opinion guys. Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: SuuPRlim on September 13, 2011, 04:56:55 PM these loose-passive types tend to play their hands exactly for their value, bet big with big hands/with hands they think are very likely to be the best hand to protect and bet small when they aren't sure.
Fold me for, hate my life on the flop but prolly call and hope he slows down on the turn. Like DM says if he's shown any signs of spazzy aggression before this changes. and welcome to PHA - keep em coming ! David Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: pleno1 on September 13, 2011, 05:20:11 PM if i say jam pre what do you say?
Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: Eso Kral on September 13, 2011, 05:34:17 PM if i say jam pre what do you say? Well I personally would Jam pre but i am a spewtard and even if were C/L we only have 20bigs as stated in the op, plus the villain probs folds A10/J here to a shove.Dont really like the flat in this spot myself. edit srry you asked for turn advice as played its a fold from me. Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: George2Loose on September 13, 2011, 05:45:53 PM these loose-passive types tend to play their hands exactly for their value, bet big with big hands/with hands they think are very likely to be the best hand to protect and bet small when they aren't sure. Fold me for, hate my life on the flop but prolly call and hope he slows down on the turn. Like DM says if he's shown any signs of spazzy aggression before this changes. and welcome to PHA - keep em coming ! David David? WTF? Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: stato_1 on September 13, 2011, 05:54:50 PM if i say jam pre what do you say? Thats why I asked if there are antes, don't really like it if not Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: George2Loose on September 13, 2011, 05:57:34 PM if i say jam pre what do you say? Thats why I asked if there are antes, don't really like it if not Agree with stato1- no antes= no jam imo Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: class on September 13, 2011, 06:08:56 PM Thanks everyone.
Eso Kral, you may be interested to know this was down the Rendezvous in Southend last night!! Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: SuuPRlim on September 13, 2011, 06:17:50 PM these loose-passive types tend to play their hands exactly for their value, bet big with big hands/with hands they think are very likely to be the best hand to protect and bet small when they aren't sure. Fold me for, hate my life on the flop but prolly call and hope he slows down on the turn. Like DM says if he's shown any signs of spazzy aggression before this changes. and welcome to PHA - keep em coming ! David David? WTF? My mother calls me this Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: George2Loose on September 13, 2011, 06:25:19 PM these loose-passive types tend to play their hands exactly for their value, bet big with big hands/with hands they think are very likely to be the best hand to protect and bet small when they aren't sure. Fold me for, hate my life on the flop but prolly call and hope he slows down on the turn. Like DM says if he's shown any signs of spazzy aggression before this changes. and welcome to PHA - keep em coming ! David David? WTF? My mother calls me this Yeh but the ladies call you lildave Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: SuuPRlim on September 13, 2011, 06:28:48 PM these loose-passive types tend to play their hands exactly for their value, bet big with big hands/with hands they think are very likely to be the best hand to protect and bet small when they aren't sure. Fold me for, hate my life on the flop but prolly call and hope he slows down on the turn. Like DM says if he's shown any signs of spazzy aggression before this changes. and welcome to PHA - keep em coming ! David David? WTF? My mother calls me this Yeh but the ladies call you lildave only the ones that have seen me naked so most of them ;) Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: muckthenuts on September 13, 2011, 07:10:10 PM Yeah would shove pre with antes, without is a bit of a big jam so i prefer completing. Likely still +cEV though so i wouldn't hate it.
Lead flop, as played fold. Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: Eso Kral on September 13, 2011, 07:26:57 PM Thanks everyone. Oh in that case you know i never play there anymore and have not regularly for 2yrs except the odd event or festival so its either Steve or the other arab cheat every dislikes in either case its a Jam as they will call with worse and fold slightly better.Eso Kral, you may be interested to know this was down the Rendezvous in Southend last night!! Do I know you? Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: class on September 13, 2011, 10:45:19 PM No you don't know me I'm afraid, I'll say hi if ever I see you though. And the villan in question wad Steve!
Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: Eso Kral on September 13, 2011, 10:55:26 PM No you don't know me I'm afraid, I'll say hi if ever I see you though. And the villan in question wad Steve! Defo shove here then!Title: Re: Turn Spot - Advice Please Post by: class on September 14, 2011, 08:28:48 AM Duly noted for future!!
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