Title: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 09:33:32 AM 11 left in the sky roller. which is sky's biggest weekly comp.
Blind are 400/800 and we are UTG+1, Alex Goulder is min raising most hands and has 45k+ and is UTG, I have a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge whale direct to my left who has called 100% of opens, he has 24k. Alex raises UTG (5 handed) to 1600, I call with Ad Jd and the fish obv comes along. Flop - Ahrt 4h 5c Alex checks, I check, fish bets 2400, Alex c/r to 5200. I call, fish calls. Turn is Kd and Alex snap jams 18k into 20k. I call. Thoughts? Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: muckthenuts on September 23, 2011, 10:51:46 AM Bet the flop
As played folding to the c/r on the flop. Doesn't seem like Alex will be bluffing this texture much oop vs a whale plus he's likely capable of barreling down and putting you in spots where you're essentially guessing later on. Bit like this lol. Definitely folding now. Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: George2Loose on September 23, 2011, 11:58:22 AM If he's a whale I'm folding flop
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 12:10:11 PM the whale was a huge huge whale. he was betting when checked to almost 100%
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: Boba Fett on September 23, 2011, 12:25:36 PM the whale was a huge huge whale. he was betting when checked to almost 100% Doubt Alex is getting out of line once you call on the flop. Only hand I can imagine you beat is Kxhh depending on how light the whale will actually call it off here.Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 12:45:15 PM what do we think alex's value range is here?
btw i remember recently he c/r axx with AA and i know he knows i know he knows i probably know this. Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: SuuPRlim on September 23, 2011, 01:52:13 PM whats your stack size is 3betting pree not a legit option given how you have some pretty high blue cards?
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 02:03:39 PM i didnt want to 5bet and wioth the dynamic we had i thoguht id get 4b alot, and the fish was huuuuuuge fish who never believed me so peeled to keep him in with j2+ a2+
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: SuuPRlim on September 23, 2011, 02:09:19 PM as played I defo fold turn.
your flop overcall is pretty dam strong, and whereas we could level ourselves into thinking that Alex knows you know the fish bets vs missed Cbet near 100% so Alex's value c/r range might be wider and his c/r bluff range have more hands in it, I think when you + the fish both overcall and he still jams the turn for near pot then he prolly just has a really good hand. Maybe he can have At/A9 with the fish in the hand and that's kinda of reasonable when he'd expect you to 3bet AJ+ with SOME frequency and ofc flush draws would be played similar but for me you're gonna get shown AK/AQ a bit too often as Alex plays to exploit these weaker players very well Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: titaniumbean on September 23, 2011, 02:46:00 PM Call pre fold flop exploit edge in every single other pot, simples.
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: DMorgan on September 23, 2011, 02:55:45 PM I fold the flop as played. Don't think Alex is gunna try and pull anything here in a 3way pot OOP to both of you. Especially not when he piles the turn.
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: cambridgealex on September 23, 2011, 03:21:58 PM Fold pre vs me. Even IP im gonna put you in a whole world of pain most of the time.
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 04:01:44 PM lol
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: DMorgan on September 23, 2011, 04:14:28 PM Fold pre vs me. Even IP im gonna put you in a whole world of pain most of the time. BoB candidate Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 04:27:42 PM I'd actually really lvoe to play HU vs Alex as he seems to have chnaged his game alot recently and I always feel semi uneasy when I'm in pots against him. Would be a good challenge.
Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: skolsuper on September 23, 2011, 04:57:05 PM i didnt want to 5bet and wioth the dynamic we had i thoguht id get 4b alot, and the fish was huuuuuuge fish who never believed me so peeled to keep him in with j2+ a2+ Doesn't make sense, I'd be fistpump jamming AJs against someone who "is minraising most hands" and then will "4b a lot". As played bet the flop, then as played fold the flop and then as played fold the turn. Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: pleno1 on September 23, 2011, 05:08:21 PM Yeah thats true, but Alex is probably the only competent player left in the tournie, so thought I'd rtaher go down the low variance route.
I checked flop to try to get the whale to spew with hands that would fold to my lead. I agree with you and others in hand and think I probably played this ub optimally, so my bad there. Alex had AQ. Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: claypole on September 23, 2011, 05:09:08 PM i didnt want to 5bet and wioth the dynamic we had i thoguht id get 4b alot, and the fish was huuuuuuge fish who never believed me so peeled to keep him in with j2+ a2+ Doesn't make sense, I'd be fistpump jamming AJs against someone who "is minraising most hands" and then will "4b a lot". As played bet the flop, then as played fold the flop and then as played fold the turn. This - much morer eloquently than I would put it, although clearly understanding you stack size is pretty relevant Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: SuuPRlim on September 23, 2011, 06:10:52 PM you're gonna get shown AK/AQ wiii can i stop the job hunt yet keys? Title: Re: Sky Roller Post by: skolsuper on September 23, 2011, 06:53:22 PM you're gonna get shown AK/AQ wiii can i stop the job hunt yet keys? lol wp lildave |