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A poker tournament based solely on skill rather than luck?

Well that's what International Poker Federation are hoping to achieve in the inaugural Duplicate Poker Nations Cup that will take place at the EDF Energy London Eye from 17th November.

The unique concept will see players, “dealt exactly the same cards in exactly the same position on neighbouring tables. With all players in a particular seat given the same allocation of cards the only determining factor in the result of the tournament is how skilfully each player uses them.”

A total of 72 players from 12 countries including the UK, USA, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland and Brazil will compete in the Nations Cup with each contest taking place in a single pod of the London Eye so no information can be shared between the tables.


“The Nations Cup will be a genuine celebration of all that is best in intellectual sports. Some of the world’s best players playing for pride and the honour of representing their countries in an intense competition with the added spice of international rivalry,” said, International Poker Federation President and Big Deal author Anthony Holden.

“Poker is played by millions around the world and Duplicate Poker is the game in its purest form. Players compete against each other based on skill, without any fluctuation in chance. I believe that it’s the best way to highlight poker as a game of strategic skill and as a Mind Sport. The Nations Cup will be a genuine celebration of all that is best in intellectual sports with the added spice of international rivalry.”

Taking place shortly after the Duplicate Poker Nations Cup is the IFP World Championship aka “The Table” at London's County Hall starting on 19th November. The $500,000 event is an invitation only affair which will see 130 of the best tournament players in the world battle it out for a first prize of $250,000.

Cool idea I guess especially playing it in the London Eye.

Obviously after hand 1 when all the stacks are different there's a whole new determining factor as to the winner but I think I kind of like it.

what a sick idea lol hilarious

ofc it can't really work because how have the cards been designated? everyone has the same amount of winning showdown hands? because board run outs etc + this won't be as true a test of skill as a test of who can understand the formula of this format better + exploit it that way.

so there is still a LOT of luck involved, mainly in what seat you draw?

The way duplicate poker used to work on the site that had it was that stacks would be reset at the start of every hand.

Winner is instead determined by the number of points you score in each hand compared to the person who is sitting in your seat at every other table.

So if I'm in seat 5 and get KK beaten by AA but get away from the hand at some point, whereas everyone else in my seat at the other tables does their stack then I get lots of points. I will, in fact get more points that the guy who had AA against me, as he won fewer chips than all the other players who had AA v KK.

All decks are stacked the same - same starting cards and flop/turn/river.

stupid idea

irrelevant after 1st hand

http://www.ifpoker.org/news/duplicate-poker

has more, including who runs the IFP, their advisory board and the reference that they are

"poker's governing body"

News to me

This is obviously vital.

If Mr brilliant at poker gets dealt a cooler hand against Mr Fish on one table but it goes the other way on another table then Mr brilliant doubles up on one table and dominates and gets ko'd on the other table.

Doesn't matter how good you are. If it's cold it's cold.

think its an amazing idea at its simplest form.

Assuming all the boards run out the same, reckon it could make for some superb watching.

But as mentioned before how do they determine the % of hands to each person, even if this is pre determined it will fluctuate as people exit etc.

fun to watch/play though. Would like to give it a go online.

Takes deck fixing to a whole new level lol

I understand they got the idea of a game involving a stacked deck after an unprofitable night at Gala Nottingham.

1 player goes out on hand 1. now that table are playing a completely different game to every other table from hand 2 onwards

good idea for about 2 minutes though

Reading comprehension fail.

No one gets knocked out of a duplicate poker tournament.

If it was like this it could work. Very nice idea imo.

where does it say that?

do people pay money to enter these?

no one gets knocked out?  rigged decks? [  ] sign me up

surely the strategy is just to move all in every hand then?

Stacks reset at the start of every hand - overall winner determined by number of points.

that was just you talking about a now defunct online poker room though

If it is like this, it would be a nice quick tourney then. Each hand, resetting a deck, reset the chips and work out the points. Wouldn't this work out better on a PHA forum board with a quizmaster?

LOL.

Yeah, live duplicate poker is going to have some overheads.

Wouldn't they just have a set of decks ready made, and a couple of sets of chips so they can play while they're being sorted?

Fair play trying new things etc

Cant see the appeal myself.

The word KERFUFFLE comes to mind.

I really wish people would leave poker as it is, every six months someone comes out with a 'version of poker without the luck factor' - that's like a version of porn without boobs. Everything that makes poker popular, fun, and profitable is because of the luck element. I know people think they are helping the game by putting emphasis on the skill element, but taking the variance out of poker would kill the game 20 times quicker than the global media referring to it as a Ponzi scheme.

How many points do you get if you go all-in and the dealer takes your cards accidentally :) or if the dealer deals the flop too quick does every game have to be reset? wowzer!

If decks are preset, how secure can this possibly be?

Did Annie Duke recommend this?

what if the table next to you gets a showdown and you see what player wins? if cards are same you can see who will win then make move. Tables will have to be in different rooms.

sounds like  a shit idea live.

each table is in a pod of the london eye

Wouldn't want to be called for a ruling lmao

Probably why they're putting each table in a different bubble on the London Eye.

Binoculars ftw

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Won't work properly because of table dynamics.

If i wanted to play bridge, I'd play bridge.

christ what overheads they got renting the whole thing for a day or two? got to do a full rev to get a ruling ,
what if people need a pee?  
how they gonna police the decks are the same?  they would have to have a list of the series of hands in each pod and they wont know until the hand is shipped (if cards are shown)


whole thing seems a bigger farce then the time flushy said he was gonna bang a famous bird within a year

I didn't say i would i was asking for a price, and it was by 30.

Anywway who says i haven't

getting fucked by Lederer and Ferguson doesnt count

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Nice idea, but the actions of those involved in the hand with you could be so different, diluting the point of fixing the cards almost completely.

its  a ridiculously stupid idea that wont work in practice

Sounds good in principle but would be a cheats paradise. If your have 3 or 4 mates playing the same tourney they could easily pass on info about hands coming up, what the other players had and how to extract max chips and when to fold when they wouldn't ordinarily.

Deserves at least a little love.........

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