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Title: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 07, 2011, 03:35:04 PM
Asteroid YU55 is about to flyby on Tuesday night closer than the Moon.

News stories have kept it quiet to avoid panic but tomorrow night it happens.

The mass of the earth is already being affected as reported today that the standard One kilogram weight has changed

Good luck everyone

Did anyone see The Fifth Element. Hope Bruce Willis ready


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: outragous76 on November 07, 2011, 03:37:31 PM
So am I Lighter or heavier today? Need to know if the scales are going to boost morale!


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 07, 2011, 03:45:35 PM
Not sure how much lighter you will be tomorrow

The boffins are baffled LOL


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 07, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
Nasa say it will miss us

but they also said its gravity will not affect us, well they got that bit wrong, lol

NASA is certain that it will miss us, and “the gravitational influence of the asteroid will have no detectable effect on anything here on Earth, including our planet’s tides or tectonic plates”.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/11/asteroid-2005-yu55/


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 07, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Its only when it slows down and hovers over Washington that we should worry


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: smashedagain on November 07, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
pmsl....you dont post anything for ages and when you do its talented stuff. Tom i'm so pleased you are so good at the pokers but refuse to get involved in p.h.a. shite


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
Nasa say it will miss us

but they also said its gravity will not affect us, well they got that bit wrong, lol

NASA is certain that it will miss us, and “the gravitational influence of the asteroid will have no detectable effect on anything here on Earth, including our planet’s tides or tectonic plates”.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/11/asteroid-2005-yu55/

Why have they got it wrong?  It's the size of an aircraft carrier - so it will have the same gravitational pull as an...aircraft carrier.  We have quite a few aircraft carriers on earth and as one comes into port it doesn't have any noticeable gravitational affect on any locals.



Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: gatso on November 07, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
'same bulk as a nuclear aircraft carrier'

lol comedy scaremongering


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: Royal Flush on November 07, 2011, 04:20:26 PM
lol was going to say not sure how something so small can adjust the gravitational pull, obv weighs more than an aircraft carrier but a chnunk less then a small mountain


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 04:21:27 PM
Mass of moon = 7.347 x 1022 kg = 73,470,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg

Mass of the asteroid = 55,000,000,000 kg


If you do the maths, the gravitational effect on the moon's orbit will be less than 500 nanometres (i.e. unobservable).


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 04:28:08 PM
lol was going to say not sure how something so small can adjust the gravitational pull, obv weighs more than an aircraft carrier but a chnunk less then a small mountain

Yeah, a big aircraft carrier only weighs 100,000,000 kg


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 07, 2011, 04:42:22 PM
the Nimitz super carrier does weigh 100,000 tons. but the YU55 asteroid has not been weighed yet. They only know how long it is .

The Nimitz-class supercarriers are a class of ten nuclear-powered aircraft carriers in service with the United States Navy. With an overall length of 1,092 ft (333 m) and full-load displacements of over 100,000 long tons,[1] they are the largest capital ships in the world.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: titaniumbean on November 07, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
Good fred. Feel like i'm learning alot. :)up


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: rex008 on November 07, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
Asteroid YU55 is about to flyby on Tuesday night closer than the Moon.

News stories have kept it quiet to avoid panic but tomorrow night it happens.

The mass of the earth is already being affected as reported today that the standard One kilogram weight mass has changed

Good luck everyone

Did anyone see The Fifth Element. Hope Bruce Willis ready

fyp. And no, it hasn't.

I probably exert more gravitational force on you than the asteroid is at the moment.

In fact I've just calculated that I exert more gravitational force on anything within 15km of me than the asteroid ever will. I weigh about 478 million times less than asteroid. Gravity is an inverse-square-of-distance force, square root of 478m is about 20000. Asteroid approaching about 300000km, 300000/20000 = 15km. All numbers approx, but you get my point :). Oh, and the aircraft carrier will exert same gravity as asteroid at 400km or thereabouts.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: rex008 on November 07, 2011, 05:02:23 PM
Well, I say it hasn't, but the standard kilogram has been changing mass since it was created. There are many many articles about it.

None have anything to do with an approaching asteroid.

My sig is feeling entirely appropriate in this thread.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: outragous76 on November 07, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
I thought that there was an international treaty so that no war ship could weigh more than 50 million tonnes?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: smashedagain on November 07, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
I thought that there was an international treaty so that no war ship could weigh more than 50 million tonnes?
no aliens signed up as far as i know


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 05:18:50 PM
I thought that there was an international treaty so that no war ship could weigh more than 50 million tonnes?

Not sure on that, but if it's the case it could be the unladen displacement that can't be more than 50 million kg ( 50,000 tonnes)?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: ManuelsMum on November 07, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
The asteroid's relativistic mass increases with velocity.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: outragous76 on November 07, 2011, 05:33:58 PM
Surely the asteroids biggest effect will be impact?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 05:42:58 PM
Surely the asteroids biggest effect will be impact?

Not when it misses.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 07, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
The White House normally ignores questions about aliens making contact with the Earth.

 But they have just made a public announcement that they are Not in contact with any Aliens, hmmmm

Also why has the now privately funded Seti been put on standby


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: zerofive on November 07, 2011, 05:53:59 PM
At least I won't be the only one missing the world recently.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 06:05:08 PM
At least I won't be the only one missing the world recently.

LOL - nh sir.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: ManuelsMum on November 07, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
The effect of the small object on the larger is tiny, but it's still there. The earth, for example, is 0.000 003 Solar Masses, but it still has an effect on the Sun's position and velocity.
When you're looking for earth-like planets orbiting other stars, you can't see them directly, they are way too small. All you have to go on is that tiny wibble in the star's position.
If you stand on the top of St Paul's, and I stand at Heathrow holding up a coin, you would have to be able to measure the distance between the Queen's nose and her eyebrow on the coin, that's the kind of measurement we're talking.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 06:09:59 PM
The effect of the small object on the larger is tiny, but it's still there. The earth, for example, is 0.000 003 Solar Masses, but it still has an effect on the Sun's position and velocity.
When you're looking for earth-like planets orbiting other stars, you can't see them directly, they are way too small. All you have to go on is that tiny wibble in the star's position.
If you stand on the top of St Paul's, and I stand at Heathrow holding up a coin, you would have to be able to measure the distance between the Queen's nose and her eyebrow on the coin, that's the kind of measurement we're talking.

Like I said, when it's at its closest to the moon as it travels on its course, the effect on the moon's orbit will be less than 500 nanometres. 

500nm = 0.0000005m = 0.0005mm

In real terms = zero.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: ManuelsMum on November 07, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
The effect of the small object on the larger is tiny, but it's still there. The earth, for example, is 0.000 003 Solar Masses, but it still has an effect on the Sun's position and velocity.
When you're looking for earth-like planets orbiting other stars, you can't see them directly, they are way too small. All you have to go on is that tiny wibble in the star's position.
If you stand on the top of St Paul's, and I stand at Heathrow holding up a coin, you would have to be able to measure the distance between the Queen's nose and her eyebrow on the coin, that's the kind of measurement we're talking.

Like I said, when it's at its closest to the moon as it travels on its course, the effect on the moon's orbit will be less than 500 nanometres. 

500nm = 0.0000005m = 0.0005mm

In real terms = zero.

Point taken, but why would God send them if they have no effect? Is this one a warning?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: TommyD on November 07, 2011, 07:52:48 PM
Should be interesting to see the footage of this.

With regards to the whole danger, asteroid, end of the world stuff; if there was a planet killer just days away from hitting the Earth would you want to know?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 09:20:58 PM
The effect of the small object on the larger is tiny, but it's still there. The earth, for example, is 0.000 003 Solar Masses, but it still has an effect on the Sun's position and velocity.
When you're looking for earth-like planets orbiting other stars, you can't see them directly, they are way too small. All you have to go on is that tiny wibble in the star's position.
If you stand on the top of St Paul's, and I stand at Heathrow holding up a coin, you would have to be able to measure the distance between the Queen's nose and her eyebrow on the coin, that's the kind of measurement we're talking.

Like I said, when it's at its closest to the moon as it travels on its course, the effect on the moon's orbit will be less than 500 nanometres. 

500nm = 0.0000005m = 0.0005mm

In real terms = zero.

Point taken, but why would God send them if they have no effect? Is this one a warning?

He's just a crap shot.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 07, 2011, 09:21:54 PM
Should be interesting to see the footage of this.

With regards to the whole danger, asteroid, end of the world stuff; if there was a planet killer just days away from hitting the Earth would you want to know?

It'll be visible in the night sky with a basic telescope.  Nothing too exciting, and Bruce Willis won't be needed.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: TommyD on November 07, 2011, 09:57:02 PM
Should be interesting to see the footage of this.

With regards to the whole danger, asteroid, end of the world stuff; if there was a planet killer just days away from hitting the Earth would you want to know?

It'll be visible in the night sky with a basic telescope.  Nothing too exciting, and Bruce Willis won't be needed.

Yup I know, just hoping for some close up funky stuff.  Yes it's just a chunk of ice but would like an extreme close up of it shooting along.

Obviously Mr Willis would be needed unless Alan Rickman is riding the asteroid.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 08, 2011, 12:11:55 AM
Hey Its on You Tube now

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gbVS905gqA


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 08, 2011, 12:41:42 AM
Nasa has also reported a giant sunspot 8 times bigger than the earth has appeared on the Sun. If a solar flare is released tomorrow , will it affect YU55 .

Time will tell

I'm stocking up on tins of baked beans and toilet paper just in case


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 08, 2011, 07:11:33 AM
How will it affect the asteroid?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 08, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
The impact ( Flyby ) will be at 11.28pm tonight

best keep your windows shut , just in case


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 09, 2011, 10:39:38 AM
Are we all dead?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: outragous76 on November 09, 2011, 10:41:47 AM
Are we all dead?

i definately feel heavier


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 09, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Are we all dead?

i definately feel heavier

Good breakfast?


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: KarmaDope on November 09, 2011, 11:24:06 AM
Are we all dead?

Damn. Another excuse for the wedding not to go ahead, right out the window rotflmfao


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: class on November 09, 2011, 11:46:24 AM
I won a flip last night, must be due to the asteriod.


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: KarmaDope on November 09, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
This asteroid just missed the planet by 201,000 miles. Scientists have therefore renamed it "Emile Heskey".


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: The-Crow on November 09, 2011, 11:51:26 PM
The radio telescopes at SETI have been sending a message back along the flight path of the asteroid in universal lingua code, along with details of our worlds resources and population it also included the phrase " You Missed "


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: rex008 on November 10, 2011, 09:02:32 AM
The radio telescopes at SETI have been sending a message back along the flight path of the asteroid in universal lingua code, along with details of our worlds resources and population it also included the phrase " You Missed "

[ ] SETI still operates radio telescopes


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: kinboshi on November 10, 2011, 02:49:39 PM
The radio telescopes at SETI have been sending a message back along the flight path of the asteroid in universal lingua code, along with details of our worlds resources and population it also included the phrase " You Missed "

[ ] SETI still operates radio telescopes

Like anything else he's posted in the thread has been factually accurate :D


Title: Re: Here it comes, tin hat time
Post by: rex008 on November 10, 2011, 05:10:26 PM
The radio telescopes at SETI have been sending a message back along the flight path of the asteroid in universal lingua code, along with details of our worlds resources and population it also included the phrase " You Missed "

[ ] SETI still operates radio telescopes

Like anything else he's posted in the thread has been factually accurate :D

I've just decided I'm going to respond to every single one of Crow's posts that I read with a [ ]

[X] until I get bored