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Am i alone in thinking that England are value at 4/1?

Pretty sure i'm going to bet it, haven't got myself to 'push the button' yet. Anyone care to disaude me?

England are miles behind Spain, with a largely experimental team probably.

Spain will want to win, and will not treat it as a friendly. Even if they were to, I think they would be too strong still.

Thats national pride talking imo, my local pub team would fair better against Spain. Think the last few games have been all unders, not 100% sure, although can't see it being a low scoring affair either. I've got Spain in a treble.

More importantly what about the great days racing ahead of us!

Just my two cents; Spain will have a decent side out. Think Spain are actually still a bit of value at 10-11, the odds against is all gone so that's a shame. England also have a poor record at Wembley and don't score enough goals.

England 12-5 draw no bet (with Coral) looks OK but I just can't really see them winning TBH.

Never bet friendlies.

I liked evens on Spain muchly, though, from a watching perspective

not much going on horse wise so far. i've lumped on cue card in the last at cheltenhsam but its not a tip.

i hope we kick these ***** off the park.

I like Tanks for That but not had any tips as such. Will certainly be having some speculative ew shots though.

Liked Spain at odds against.
It's a friendly and Barca played midweek so it could be a "weakened" team although I still think Spain's 2nd XI would give anyone in the world a game.
I'll have to wait for full team news. Lampard and Jones in midfield doesn't really inspire me.

easy game. hope someone followed.

The more I think about it the less I can have an England win here. Spain is just sooooooooo much better than England..England to get more then 40% possesion might be worth a bet (Don't know if there are odds on this TBH) but I reckon that's as good as it gets.

Spain -1 for me @ 9-4 (normal handicap)

No way I'd back England here, looking forward to watching Spain play.

I'm on Spain because we're fking useless

6/4 Montenegro to qualify looks Big, it's the worst Czech Republic team by quite some way and Montenegro are hard to beat as proved against England, Home and Away.

No doubting...Under normal circumstances Spain are miles ahead of England but there are some reasons to consider  England

  1  Its a Friendly
  2  Home tie / Home Crowd
  3  England generally play better against superior teams
  4  Will Spain be up for it ?
  5  I envisage England will be up for it after recent criticism
  6 I have identified  better than 11- 4 for England draw no bet (ie you get your money back if its a draw )

  http://sports.betfair.com/?rfr=63&mi=104264522&ex=1

  http://www.oddschecker.com/football/internationals/international-friendlies/england-v-spain/draw-no-bet


If for no other reason.... the Price looks too big, plus you get full refund if its a draw

This Spanish team are the best team ever, probably. This England team is shite, add them together and get evens on Spain and I say valuooooooooooooooo.

Not trying to put you off or knock your logic but just wanted to give you some extra info

Xavi more advanced than Busquets and Alonso? 16/1 FGS

Nicely done England backers.
Wish we could magically forget the result though. It's the hype that kills me.

Wasn't going to back it but 5/1 on offer today just seemed to big to ignore.

Jagielka and Lescott immense.

Happy with my 3 - 1 England  Draw no bet with Chandlers (commission free ofc )

as the price indicated if they play 3 more times  Spain would probably win them all ,Luckily England made it happen today

Peace  x

Japes, guess where guna win the Euro's binkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

FFS it was a kickabout.... Spain werent even trying.....

Come back when you make the final Semi Final...

Englanders tell me how yous would feel about drawing Ireland in the groups, I'm thinking Ireland would relish it more, would have nothing to lose and would be fairly happy to draw England as a 'big gun' team, I'm not so sure England want some of Ireland , Thoughts?

Kinda knew I could get a Scotsman to bite but was hoping for someone like Boldie :(

We don't want Ireland.

Ireland would be an awful draw for us, especially given they will be seeded with some of the weaker teams who don't view the game as a derby of sorts.

I'd take Ireland. That's not being cocky but the group stage is the last 16 so there aren't many weak teams. I think your strength is in attack so you might take the game to us and that is better for us.
Reading on twitter Pot 4 is probably Denmark France Ireland and Czech. I'd probably want Czech and deffo don't want France. Pretty meh between the other 2 so I certainly wouldn't be upset if we got Ireland.

How are France in pot 4 ? what!

I'd take Denmark and Czech over Ireland.

[  ] Good Attempt

Wouldn't agree with that mate, Trappatoni is all about defence we've something ridic like 8 clean sheets in 9 not quite sure how many but either way Trap is very cautious/negative, we have Whelan and Andrews in midfield who are just there to stifle teams neither can really pass, our whole game is based around shut outs thats my main point!

I still think your strength is in attack in terms of players. Trap obv disagrees. I heard he doesn't even pick Hoolahan??
Sounds like it'd be an awful game.
I'd deffo take you if Whelan and Andrews are going to play.

Ah yea I know what you mean now with regards to our better known players would be attacking options, so I guess it would be the strongest part of the squad!

Hoolahan dosent get a sniff, nor does Seamus Coleman and when Andy Reid was a bit trimmer we were crying out for his bit of craft but he never got a gig either, then theres also Stephen Hunt who alot of people think should get more of  a game but he dosent, even Shane Long was getting left out at the expense of Cox recently who he keeps out at West Brom (work that out!)

Last but not least we have the douche Stephen Ireland who is in retirement! So all in all trap seems to  not give a shizz what the people want but at least hes got us there!

You've conceded 1 in your last 10 games, which when I heard it the 1st time I thought it was a misread, insane, wpwp.

If England had Trappatoni they would have done so much better at the last World Cup.
If Scotland had him they would have made the Play offs.

Czech Republic will be the weakest Team at the Euros.

I'm not a fan of Capello at all but doesn't he have a better CV than Trappatoni ?

How would we have done so much better if we had Trap, are you saying he'd have got us 2 the final, gotta love these bitter Scots.

What you on about "bitter Scots"?For a start under Trapp Germany wouldn't have taken 4 off England.
I was more poniting to the fact he's a better manager than Levein and Cappello.

I don't understand how you can say that, Germany are much better than us ? I also don't see how he's a better manager than Capello, what has he done to suggest that ?

Your correct, he doesn't.
Very similiar but Trap shades it.

Huh ? read it again  ;)

Nice win for England even though it obv didn't actually tell us anything.

England to make 8 changes against sweden..bit of value in taking Sweden @ 9-2? (I can't find team news for Sweden though tbf I haven't looked very hard)

Lustig, Mellberg, Majstorovic, M. Olsson; Kallstrom, Wernbloom; Larsson, Elmander, Elm; Ibrahimovic will be the lineup based on training.

Market price looks fair enough atm imo, England still quite likely to be strong, something like this: Walker, Terry, Cahill, Cole; Barry, Rodwell, Lampard; Sturridge, Zamora, Welbeck, which is quite a lot stronger than the Swedish one imo which just strikes me as massively average bar Zibra who under performs internationally.

Don't we have a redonkulous drawing record with Sweden?

Do i misunderstand  the word 'redonkulous', i keep hearing it said for all kinds of things when i thought it was poker specific term? I heard it in a film the other day and it just seemed weird.

i'd back a draw vs sweden.

actually hoping to get beat. something to dampen expectations in run in to champs.

I thought it was too. Heard it the other day in a non-poker world so must have picked it up from there. No idea of the origins but it's certainly used outside of poker now.

Yes I also heard it recently in a film or something, I wonder what it was, maybe we all saw it in the same thing? Ehhhhh let me think 'horrible bosses' was it in that have you guys seen it?

never heard of it.

Get it watched then man! Jennifer Aniston plays a nympho and Charlie from Its always sunny is in it! Decent laugh

Its in Stepbrothers

Also just read that if Portugal don't win in 90 but still qualify tonight they would drop into Pot 4 instead of Denmark.

England @ 4 -5 to beat Sweden looks value to me...against a team that doesnt perform too well away from home and in recent times has failed to deliver results

I expect Sturridge and the other new guys to do the business

Heard it at that weekend and thought it mustn't be true but since they've repeated it tonight I guess it's right, Joe Hart's never lost a game for England, 15 unbeaten, surprised me.

I almost choked when I turned on for the last 10 minutes and saw Scott Carson between the sticks... I don't care about his league performances, That man should never be wearing an England shirt again!