Title: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: edgascoigne on November 23, 2011, 09:24:44 PM We are playing c£270, no real hands of note to date.
Utg+1 opens to 15 A couple of seats along with Jc Qc we: A) Fold B) Call C) Raise We peel, as do 3 others inc both blinds. Pot is £75 Flop comes: J T 8 r (no clubs) Checks to us and we: A) Check B) Bet 35 C) Bet 51 We bet 51 and are called by just the SB. Pot is 177. Turn comes the Ahrt which is a second heart. Villain checks, we: A) Check B) Bet 95 C) All in for c200 We check. River is the 3h. Villain bets 125. We?? Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: rfgqqabc on November 23, 2011, 09:58:51 PM Played it fine, too strong of a hand to 3b and no reason to 3b an utg+1 raiser. Flop fine, maybe a little big but i see no problems with it.
Turn is ok, i think you'll still be in front so maybe it is a bet, but its hard to see what worse hands call and a 9x hand might bluff the river. River is a call i think, i cant see how he has an ace and backdoor hearts/flopped straight are your only real concerns as all 2pair+ hands prob raise flop Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: pokerfan on November 23, 2011, 10:10:10 PM We are playing c£270, no real hands of note to date. fypUtg+1 opens to 15 A couple of seats along with Jc Qc We peel, as do 3 others inc both blinds. Pot is £75 Flop comes: J T 8 r (no clubs) Checks to us and We bet 51 and are called by just the SB. Pot is 177. Turn comes the Ahrt which is a second heart. Villain checks, We check. River is the 3h. Villain bets 125. We?? No point giving us options then just saying what happened lol, sb stack ? Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: edgascoigne on November 23, 2011, 10:14:53 PM We are playing c£270, no real hands of note to date. fypUtg+1 opens to 15 A couple of seats along with Jc Qc We peel, as do 3 others inc both blinds. Pot is £75 Flop comes: J T 8 r (no clubs) Checks to us and We bet 51 and are called by just the SB. Pot is 177. Turn comes the Ahrt which is a second heart. Villain checks, We check. River is the 3h. Villain bets 125. We?? No point giving us options then just saying what happened lol, sb stack ? Fair point, figured I would stick it all in one post rather than release street by street. SB covers. Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: SuuPRlim on November 23, 2011, 10:46:28 PM as played fold.
I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet. Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: mulhuzz on November 23, 2011, 11:42:25 PM as played fold. I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet. mmmm, like that extra 4% makes it really close? I think I might even just fold pre readless, but as played I just try and get to showdown cheap, prolly have to fold this river. Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: cambridgealex on November 24, 2011, 04:42:59 AM as played fold. I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet. mmmm, like that extra 4% makes it really close? I think I might even just fold pre readless, but as played I just try and get to showdown cheap, prolly have to fold this river. Backdoor flush draws are super important when you're deep. Fold pre? Are u mental? Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: mulhuzz on November 24, 2011, 05:56:55 AM Backdoor flush draws are super important when you're deep. Fold pre? Are u mental? we're 90bb 'deep' tho? and my point was that 4% extra equity shouldn't really make you 'much more likely' to bet flops, right? and yeah, against an unknown in a complete vacuum I might just fold pre. Anything that suggests that 3 other players will come along, or that utg+1 is opening semi-light will make me call ofc. I'm not saying fold is my standard, but from the info given I think fold a) has to be an option and b) isn't mental. Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: pleno1 on November 24, 2011, 08:43:25 AM folding pre to a 5x raise 90bbs deep is definitely not out of the question
Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: rfgqqabc on November 24, 2011, 08:55:07 AM If your folding pre with 90 bigs snap reload 1k more big blinds so you never have to fold such pretty hands pre again
Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: pleno1 on November 24, 2011, 09:11:55 AM If your folding pre with 90 bigs snap reload 1k more big blinds so you never have to fold such pretty hands pre again ja, this is fine ofc. Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: edgascoigne on November 24, 2011, 09:13:37 AM Think folding pre with 90bbs is probably 'correct'.
But those cards are right next to each other and have the same shape in the corner. As played I figured he's showing up with a 9 on the end a lot of the time assuming (correctly) I didn't like the ace...and called. He had AJ, which figures. Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: SuuPRlim on November 24, 2011, 09:30:25 AM as played fold. I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet. mmmm, like that extra 4% makes it really close? well basically, when spots are close like this we have to randomize our decision making somehow, as in we chk the flop a certain % and bet a certain %, so for me I always choose times with backdoor equity to take a more aggressive option Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: muckthenuts on November 24, 2011, 09:32:11 AM folding pre to a 5x raise 90bbs deep is definitely not out of the question +1 Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: DMorgan on November 24, 2011, 01:35:58 PM Don't fold pre, fold now though. He has AJ lol
Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: stato_1 on November 25, 2011, 01:19:20 AM Fold pre 90bigs deep vs a 5x for me
Title: Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic Post by: AlexMartin on November 25, 2011, 12:49:17 PM not a great fan of pre, might shove turn sometimes if hes never folding 9x. yeah fkit if shove turn.
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