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Title: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: muckthenuts on November 24, 2011, 09:27:48 AM
Line check and plan for this turn? 3kish left in eff stacks.

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 8 players -  (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1529550)
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Hero (SB): t4176       27.84 BBs
BB: t5600       37.33 BBs
UTG: t10126       67.51 BBs
UTG+1: t1122       7.48 BBs
MP1: t6295       41.97 BBs
MP2: t5037       33.58 BBs
CO: t5339       35.59 BBs
BTN: t9425       62.83 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is SB with 5d 5h
6 folds, Hero raises to t450, BB calls t300

Flop: (t900) 6s 2s: Ts: (2 players)
Hero bets t575, BB calls t575

Turn: (t2050) 5s: (2 players)
Hero....


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: the rage on November 24, 2011, 10:29:30 AM
I would say that your line was fine. Good chance that villian has a spade.
I would bet about 800 on the turn.
If he has no spades, i think he has to fold everything bar a set-not a bad outcome, as another spade puts you both level.
If he has the nut flush he may well flat call anyway, giving you a chance to hit your full house on the river at a reasonable price.
He could re-raise with any flush though, so i would bet, with the intention of folding to a re-raise, but expecting to see the river card more often than not.
Bit unlucky if villian has a set of sixes.


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: pleno1 on November 24, 2011, 10:44:31 AM
i dont think he raises turn with many flushes tbh


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: the rage on November 24, 2011, 11:01:16 AM
i dont think he raises turn with many flushes tbh

Cheers Pleno-That's what i was thinking, believe it or not. I really cant see what hand villian should be re-raising with if we bet the turn. That does assume that the villian plays optimally though. Personally, i dont think that villian would bluff re-raise there. I may be under estimating the likelyhood that villian would play back at us, but i feel that betting would get the villian to fold non spade hands almost always, whilst allowing hero to see the river with good odds against flushes.
 It's an interesting hand for sure.


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: stato_1 on November 25, 2011, 01:25:36 AM
I know this isn't what you asked but i think I would check/fold flop. Also wouldn't need to have too many fewer chips before I'd just shove pre.

I'm dodging the question at hand because I've got NFI what you're supposed to do now :)


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: Pugwashed on November 25, 2011, 05:22:30 AM
I think the bare Aspades gets jammed a lot pre or raises flop so I don't see him having the nuts too often and he likely pot controls a lot of worse flushes on the turn. Also I see people float the flop bvb way too much. I don't see myself folding very often if he bets the turn.


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: muckthenuts on November 25, 2011, 07:57:45 AM
I think the bare Aspades gets jammed a lot pre or raises flop so I don't see him having the nuts too often and he likely pot controls a lot of worse flushes on the turn. Also I see people float the flop bvb way too much. I don't see myself folding very often if he bets the turn.

A sight everyone very rarely sees lol


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: Pugwashed on November 25, 2011, 08:09:05 AM
Things have changed, I no longer just sigh and station it off with any show down value on any run out. And tbf, just calling down all your triple barrels with 3rd pair seemed to work out pretty often


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: AlexMartin on November 25, 2011, 12:18:13 PM
deffo do not cbet this board.



Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: youthnkzR on November 26, 2011, 01:05:22 AM
i dont think he raises turn with many flushes tbh


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: SuuPRlim on November 26, 2011, 01:19:10 AM
chk fold the flop or sure.

i still wanna chk/fold even now with the stacks as they are


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: muckthenuts on November 26, 2011, 05:18:49 AM
Any love for a blocker bet?


Title: Re: Line check and plan $22 mtt
Post by: railtard1 on November 26, 2011, 07:02:55 AM
agree with stato. wouldnt need many less chips before id be shoving pre.  #tornyfish