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Title: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: marcro on November 28, 2011, 01:51:04 PM
I am going through a phase of losing all of my all ins and starting to question pulling the trigger.  Would you play this differently?

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

SB: $400.00
BB: $400.00
UTG: $527.90
Hero (CO): $415.40
BTN: $416.70

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has Kd Ad

fold, Hero raises to $10.00, fold, SB calls $8.00, fold

Flop: ($24.00, 2 players) Jd Ac 6d
SB checks, Hero bets $17.10, SB raises to $52.00, Hero raises to $147.10, SB raises to $390.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $242.90

Turn: ($804.00, 2 players) 4s

River: ($804.00, 2 players) 9h

SB shows 6c 6h (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (PreFlop 52%, Flop 69%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows Kd Ad (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 48%, Flop 31%, Turn 18%)
SB wins $802.00


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: millidonk on November 28, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Never. even if he showed me his cards.


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: mulhuzz on November 28, 2011, 02:30:12 PM
Never. even if he showed me his cards.

saw our hand and board and assumed we had a spot on river.

play it exactly like this without a really good reason not to imo.


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: pleno1 on November 28, 2011, 02:39:38 PM
if we could see his cards we would probably check back flop i guess :D


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: boldie on November 28, 2011, 02:47:55 PM
Never. even if he showed me his cards.

saw our hand and board and assumed we had a spot on river.

play it exactly like this without a really good reason not to imo.

Yeah pretty much this.


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: pleno1 on November 28, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
I'd rather get it in otf with A2dd than AKdd as we take out alot of his kq,k10,kxdd combos that are happily trying to shovel moniez into the pot.

I don't mind calling the flop vs his value range assuming he never peels JJ pre and trys to get q10dd in otf.

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    54.924%     54.80%    00.13%              4340           10.00   { 66, QdTd, AJo }
Hand 1:    45.076%     44.95%    00.13%              3560           10.00   { AdKd }


In summary, 3b the flop isolates us vs the top of his range.


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: lolwutwasthat on November 28, 2011, 03:13:17 PM
call flop, this is a great hand to have in our calling range, we are calling c/r on this board with sooo many weaker hands such as just top pair, some gutshots with bkdoorFD, KJ, FDs. 3betting flop is marginal with no reads, most ppls c/r range on this board is air which we have almost dead, gutshots which are nearly dead, Fds which we crush, combo draws(only QTdd) AJ which we're a slight underdog, 66 which we're in bad shape vs. so unless you think villian is going to spaz with air/ worse fds, 3betting flop just makes him fold when hes behind and 4bet when hes got us beat.
Albeit occasionally i will raise vs some players but never at the large sizing of 142, so unnecessary and unbalanced, 100-110 is optimal :)


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: UpTheMariners on November 28, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
I'd prefer to just call the check raise if we were readless.


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: Rupert on November 28, 2011, 03:17:10 PM
I'd prefer to just call the check raise if we were readless.

yeah was gonna post this but then couldn't be bothered


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: EvilPie on November 28, 2011, 03:19:46 PM
Call the check raise on the flop.

Call his $100 or so on the turn.

Have a little cry on the river when he shoves.


Title: Re: $400 NL - Anyone folding here?
Post by: marcro on November 28, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Thanks for the replies.