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is a goner.

thoughts?

Inevitable once the fans turned

Has had ages, and cash, team is underperforming

Correct decision

Ship the pre-season prediction points!

Think some of his signings have been dire. 

Martin O'Neill will be favourite to take over no doubt.  He'd probably be interested if the board gave him the same level of backing as they did Bruce.

as a newcastle fan, I'm distraught to find out that sunderland have discovered that Agent Bruce was a mole, planted 2 and a half years ago to bring about sunderland's demise.

throughout that time, Steve has performed with honesty, integrity and with a steely determination to bring about our collective goal.

I'm devastated to see him leave today. It means we'll have to implant Agent Shearer earlier than expected...

Did you see the state of him when he was interviewed after the match at the weekend? I was genuinely worried for him he was so stressed he looked like he was going to explode. No doubt he's a manager who cares and is not there just for the money, but the results were lacking. Take a rest Brucie and try again somewhere else after a break. gg.

The bookies always seem to stick MoN in @ 1/2 every time there's a premiership vacancy.

Can't see it myself but I did grab some 5.3 Mark Hughes as that seems like a good match to me.

if he had a decent striker he would have got more results and not got sacked. They sold or let his best players go.

Was just thinking that. I bet Gyan isn't on Bruce's Xmas card list.

I'm pretty decent pointed, means every derby might not be a gtd win now :(

Bad beat for me, had Steve Kean!

Yup, very decent pointing.

Gotta love Rayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Bruce is the master of his own downfall imo. He's always been overall weak in the transfer market and previous chairmen have commented on this. He should have established strikers after such a relatively long spell at the club. Admittedly it was a challenge when he lost Bent but you must have decent depth to do well in the prem as a manager. He didn't have it because he's been signing loan players in that position and permanent players with much less commitment to the club than he has. I can't imagine Gyan was desperate to play for sunderland really nor Bendtner. He got messed about by Amir Zaki at Wigan as well so it follows him around. I think he had a genius moment at Blues where he signed Dugarry and he's been sold on maverick players ever since. I think he finally got a good fit with Connor Wickham but sadly too late. Pretty convinced MON will get the job cos he's been showing up on telly which always signifies itchy feet and i believe he's a sunderland fan.

Almost forgot about that lad, must wikipedia him............

Zaki returned to Egyptian Premier League side Zamalek for the 2009–10 season. During the summer transfer window, he turned down a move to English Premier League club Portsmouth, who had been strongly linked with the player. This is largely criticized in the English press because his refusal was due to the presence of two Algerians and an Israeli on the team. Zaki said "after Portsmouth signed an Israeli player and also hired an Israeli football director a possible move was ruled out. On top of that, no way could I play at Portsmouth with an Algerian within in their ranks."[16] During his time at El Zamalek he struggled with injuries, sickness, the lack of scoring goals, and a spot on the team.

 :o

aparently we had signed danny welbeck in january last year, a fee was agreed between the 2 sides and welbeck was happy to to move sunderland on a permanent. then a few days after everything was agreed bruce decided the transfer fee was too high, and fergy basically told him to fk off. this is just what iv heard like, but sounds redic. id certainly have been happy to invest quite a lot of the 18m they got for bent, and quite a lot of the 8 million we paid for connor whickham.

signed far too many players every year hes been there, every new season we started with bruce we had a significantly changed team, impossible to develope this way.

for some reason this season it took him 10 matches to realise that sessagnon wasnt a striker, and that playing a 4 foot tall midfielder upfront on his own wasnt quite working. But its ok, because last saturday he had a masterplan, he'd move keiron richardson away from his usual left back position and play him as an attacking ride sided player. and play seb larson (cracking right foot) down the left.

he didnt realise that mignolet was probably a worse keeper than my gran, and it took a broken nose to finally get him out the team.

last season El Mohammedy was probably the worst sunderland player in the squad. Yerp, he decides to sign him on a permanent deal this season.

fuck knows what advice he gave titus bramble.

one positive i can see is ji dong won, atleast we can have a laugh.

PMSL, that's pretty hilarious, in my defence my break was just about ending and 20 tables where about to started beeping, lol at how my brain works.

I honestly don't know how you lads cope with all those Tables AND Post on blonde, respect to you, I struggle with 4 or 5, especially with all the rail chat directed my way. Some of which is nice.

Anyway, best not derail the Thread, football's life & death up your way, eh?

Mr Bruce? Not exactly the sort of person who could motivate me, to be honest. A good player does not necessarily make a good manaager & all that. You'd have thought that penny would have dropped with the Sunderland board after their experiences with Messrs Butcher, Reid, Quinn & Keane.

I used to watch Sunderland a lot, as it happens, as I had business interests up there, & I had a corporate box for the season that the Stadium of Light was opened - '97, was it? Never took to it though, Roker had such an incredible atmo, no "new-style" Stadia could ever match that.

I wouldn't do it whilst playing, I generally don't look on blonde whilst in a session but had a quick look at the bbc site during a break so came on to post that I was decent pointed.

I think "decent pointed" will now become a blonde-ism. Today, I will use it. You can claim the credit.

I know some things went against Bruce at Sunderland, but for me I wont shed a tear he lost his job. It's karma for the man who shafted 3-4 clubs as a manager to try and read the top. I bet Wigan fans are happy.

Pat Murphy on 5Live quite interesting last night on this.
Apparently as a kid M O'Neill was a big Sunderland fan and would love the job. Only thing which may prevent him getting it is the fact that he fell out with Randy Lerner at Villa. Lerner and Ellis Short are on quite good terms.

He also said that the reason MON left Villa is because Milner was being sold and MON wanted Scott Parker to replace him, a £6m deal was agreed, and Lerner blocked it.

and so the managerial merry-go-round starts again
Bruce leaves Sunderland and the suggestions for his replacement are all the out of work managers whose record of failure/ disloyalty/ inability to work with their board or chairman makes them the only candidates for the job?

No doubt Bruce's name will be mentioned when the Blackburn job becomes available later in the season.

Martinez and Coyle took the step up from lower league clubs into the PL, as, in a sense, did Pardew (special case) but with the current form exception of Pardew that hasn't gone well. Is there someone out there in the Championship or below that could be considered here?

Adkins? Always had a decent budget but nonetheless a great start to the season for a newly promoted team.
Mackay? Smaller budget than Jones had and maintaining/improving results?
Powell? Probably too low to appoint a L1 manager but so far so good.

Other than the big 2 linked with it I'd imagine Martinez, Lambert and possibly Mclaren would be under consideration. Not sure I'd want anything to do with Hughes.

Anyone think he may actually do something with Wales in the short term therefore is a good lay for the job?

It's not an angle I'd considered but Wales do look like they have the makings of a really good team over the next few years so it's probably a better job than it has been in the past and maybe one where he could rebuild his reputation.
Probably a good lay anyway. He's slimy so many people won't want to touch him. Kia is his agent which will put people off. He quit Fulham expecting a bigger job so that could be a fear. Bookies love a Next Manager Market. A different manager will get linked daily for as long as it goes on so it's possible he will be a bigger price again at some point.

You could have layed £4k about five minutes ago @ 2.9 on BF, gone now but I can't see that it was taken.

Amazing that the same old names get trotted out every time there is a vacancy, & Steve McLaren is one of them. Really?

George Graham used to be in every betting market for years on end, not sure what price he is for Sunderland this time?  ;)

What price is "Big Ron"?

Seeing as you asked, & quite unable to miss a spam op - like a mini-Channing me......

Online bookmaker Sky Bet have installed Aston Villa manager Martin O’Neill as 2/5 favourite to take charge at Sunderland after the Black Cats relieved Steve Bruce of his managerial duties.

 

Steve Bruce had been steadily backed by punters to be the first Premier League manager to leave after their 2-1 home defeat to Wigan – their sixth league defeat in 13 games, and their third at the Stadium of Light. The result left Sunderland in 16th place, just two points above the drop zone.

 

Bruce’s departure, after two-and-a-half year in charge, now raises questions as to who will succeed at the Stadium of Light. Former Aston Villa manager Martin O’Neill has been installed as 4/6 favourite with Sky Bet, while Mark Hughes – out of a job since leaving Fulham in the summer – is 9/2. Eric Black, who will take temporary charge of Sunderland, is 18/1, while Huddersfield manager Lee Clark – who played for both Sunderland and Newcastle – is 28/1.

 

Sky Bet’s Dale Tempest said: “While the departure of Bruce is no great surprise, the timing of it perhaps is – many people thought he would get a chance to redeem himself against Wolves and beyond.

 

“Martin O’Neill is favourite and the Northern Irishman would love to manage in the Premier League again after an 18-month hiatus; Mark Hughes would also jump at the chance of management again. Other interesting candidates include Rafa Benitez, Carlo Ancelotti and Steve McClaren.”

 

Sky Bet’s next permanent Sunderland manager odds: http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html

There's some comedy bets in there, I'm sure.

"Next Permanent Sunderland Manager" includes Peter Reid, @ 40/1, & Roy Keane @ 50/1.

Bit like my value bets in poker, those.

Your spam would appear not to be current regarding prices.

Skybet presently offer 4/7 MH and 6/4 MoN, whereas Betfair go 13/8 and 11/8 respectively.

There are some hugely varying books out there.

I've greened out on MH now. This market is very volatile, the front two have flip-flopped again.

Im disappointed he has gone as he was helping make my Sunderland Relegation bet look value (still  big @ 11-2 )

In my opinion ,he has made a lot of average summer signings for big money but nobody that stands out (Connor Wickham for the future )

Sorry to be negative to all Sunderland fans, but I call it as I see it and I think its going to get a lot worse before it gets better

I like Steve Bruce as a person but I think he is more suited as a lower league manager on a small budget ,like so many that have gone before him he struggles with bigger money transfers

Good Luck Mr Bruce

Saw on twitter, so admittedly not the world's most reliable source that his net expenditure was 15 mill.

In that respect, a bit harsh perhaps?

Isn't that buying 5/6 average players and simply selling Bent tho?

Isn't that what you tend to do when you are a club like Sunderland? They're unlikely to take the 24 mill for Bent and spend it all on 1-2 players?

Don't get me wrong I don't particularly like the potato headed twunt, but the notion he's spent an absolute fortune is somewhat incorrect.

Doesn't really tell the whole story. The wage bill must be far bigger now than when he arrived. Probably doesn't include loan fees which could be significant too.
I also think when people say he's spent loads of money they don't always mean his net transfer spend is huge.
He has actually spent loads. He made good money off some average players and didn't really spend the money well.
Loved a centre half deal too.

Sunderland already owned Jordan Henderson before Brucey arrived so £20m of that net spend is just realising an existing asset and isn't relevant when judging his shrewdness in the transfer market imo.

Meh, he's a mediocre manager who will no doubt find a new club fairly soon (Villa anyone?). He'll be part of the rotating group of crappy managers that does the rounds in Britain and who stop new blood coming through the ranks.

To offer 2-5 on O'Neil becoming the new manager either shows that Sky have massive inside info (which I doubt or the Betfair price would be closer to this) or that they have just opened up a fictitious market. (Or are massively taking the piss, which is also an option)

I know we like to have a pop at sky but they are 1/3, 9/4 the first 2 in the market. Ladbrokes are 1/4, 13/8.
These markets are great for all bookies. A bit of good info and good timing and you can make some money but most won't.

If I were them, in the knowledge that MON would probably be waiting for Spurs...I'd try hard to get Paul Lambert I reckon

Lee Clark ONE TIME!

this!

Rich I know you and I are on opposite sides when it comes to rating MON so don't really want to debate it again but if we can forget ability do you think he would be wise to wait for Spurs?
Assuming that Redknapp is not in prison at the end of the season Spurs could be a Champions League team again. Not only does that make it more tempting for Redknapp to stay but it will also bring in a higher calibre of applicants for the job. Could see the likes of Benitez interested and he's won the CL! Also thought that Moyes was always the man going to take over from Harry. Money run dry at Everton so I think fans would understand he's taken them as far as he can and leaving for a team with a bigger budget and more chance of winning something. Also thought Levy had tried to get him previously.
Just seems a risk unless he's decided he only wants to work again if it's a huge job.

Unless you know the chairman of the respective club...anybody betting on this market needs serious help

Stay Away  !!

Huh ? WTF, Clarky for the toon in a few years.

fo sho! but he can wreck the mackems first ;)

Billy Davies anyone.......

I'd have him back at Forest, in fact I'd go fetch him myself if it was to help.  Sunderland is near Scotland innit!!!!

Bet he's interested.

He could never ever be the Newcastle manager if he managed the mackems 1st.

Betting suspended, looks like it is MON

Great appointment, goes without saying  ;)

Not for those of us who punted on Mark Hughes :(

Still betting on BF

MoN is currently 1.38

I'm decent pointed.

Or 1/8 with skybet which is a little indecent pointing.

Sigh, Bruce seen leaving Sunderland's training ground in  tears  (http://www.backpagemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/sad-potato-362x289.jpg)

 :'(

Me 2, he's best they could've got :(

very very happy with martin o'neil, one time please hold