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Title: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Amatay on November 30, 2011, 07:01:51 PM
Dunno if this has already been posted or if its some sort of joke or summat but pls god let this happen...

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/Facebook-Poker:-Real-Money-Play-in-UK-_54265/


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: giveyourcash on November 30, 2011, 07:25:42 PM
ONE FUCKING TIME DEALER!!!


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on November 30, 2011, 07:29:46 PM
defo not a joke.

also reported by EGR and by TechCrunch.

find it one timmmmme.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: cambridgealex on November 30, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
juan time!


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: paulhouk03 on November 30, 2011, 07:39:37 PM
fb gets hacked soooooo much tho


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: GreekStein on November 30, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
PLSPLSPLS


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: treefella on November 30, 2011, 07:44:25 PM
 Happy Christmas : )


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: outragous76 on November 30, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
even I would open a FB acct


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: kinboshi on November 30, 2011, 10:05:02 PM
Wow - this would be very, very good.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Bongo on November 30, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
Wow - this would be very, very good.

Or very, very bad, depends what terms FB gets away with really...


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: bobAlike on November 30, 2011, 10:20:17 PM
wouldn't fancy having any money on fb poker.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: ACE2M on November 30, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
wow. i'd take up online poker again seriously if this starts.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on November 30, 2011, 11:45:43 PM
wouldn't fancy having any money on fb poker.

imagine that it's an app, that is run on facebook (just like, say, Mafia Wars or whatever the latest vomit inducing trendy game is), but not by facebook.

Imagine that facebook is just an interface, a platform, and does some light lifting, but all the heavy stuff is still done by operators you know and trust (stuff like payment services, account services, etc).

Imagine that poker got as social as pkr and 888 wanted to make it and imagine all of the bonafide god awesome stuff that this means.

Imagine all the fish! (I assume you'll only be able to one table as a fb player, but if the liquidity is shared (no reason why it wouldn't be...) then you can multi, if you choose)

Imagine that poker just became really really socially integrated into people's lives, just like the Randomnoun-villes are now.

Welcome to the new poker boom.

i can't stress how huge this is for the industry as a whole, for networks (lolnetworks), operators and players.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on November 30, 2011, 11:47:27 PM
I'm really not overstating things here imo.

Facebook could become the new Ongame or iPoker. Overnight.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: bobAlike on December 01, 2011, 12:03:22 AM
I understand what you're saying but just concerned about security.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on December 01, 2011, 12:19:55 AM
I understand what you're saying but just concerned about security.

wouldn't be handled by facebook (I imagine) but by the operators. (although that's a good concern to have, btw)


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Woodsey on December 01, 2011, 12:30:46 AM
If it does happen I hope they restrict play to only 1 table. The last thing we want is armies of Internet players moving over, 12 tabling and sucking the value out of the games in 3-6 months.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Bongo on December 01, 2011, 10:41:37 AM
People trust poker operators more than facebook?  ;gobsmacked;


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: pleno1 on December 01, 2011, 10:45:47 AM
I'm really not overstating things here imo.

Facebook could become the new Ongame or iPoker. Overnight.


lololol

the new stars/tilt overnight more like imo.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Bongo on December 01, 2011, 10:58:40 AM
Just imagine how easy it will be for nippers "John Smith just won $10,000 playing facebook poker".

Automated bad beat stories too...


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: boldie on December 01, 2011, 11:51:00 AM
People trust poker operators more than facebook?  ;gobsmacked;

Was thinking this myself. A decently regulated, in the UK, Facebook Poker network or some shoddily regulated pokersite. I know where I'd rather stick my money.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Bongo on December 01, 2011, 02:32:07 PM
Yeah I think the number of poker sites that haven't leaked data is very small and that's just the ones I have knowledge of (i.e. unique email for each site). Some the emails even have my full name...


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on December 01, 2011, 02:39:08 PM
lol at trusting facebook re privacy..


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: boldie on December 01, 2011, 02:40:08 PM
lol at trusting facebook re privacy..

Don't trust them..but trust them more than some poker networks


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Bongo on December 01, 2011, 02:56:34 PM
lol at trusting facebook re privacy..

I was talking about data security rather than privacy.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on December 01, 2011, 03:29:39 PM
lol at trusting facebook re privacy..

I was talking about data security rather than privacy.
fair enough - what makes you trust fbook more than the poker sites applying for licenses? also, maybe fb adds another layer of abstraction (right term?) to improve data security?


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Ironside on December 01, 2011, 03:35:33 PM
i remember when yahoo started real money poker everyone thought it would be good for the game
wasnt really as people who wanted to play for real moneyalready did
and those that played yahoo poker for fun didnt move accross


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on December 01, 2011, 03:51:42 PM
i remember when yahoo started real money poker everyone thought it would be good for the game
wasnt really as people who wanted to play for real moneyalready did
and those that played yahoo poker for fun didnt move accross

facebook is an entirely different animal though.


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Bongo on December 01, 2011, 03:58:50 PM
Experience - loads of poker sites have had data security breaches. I can't recall hearing of one on facebook that wasn't user side (correct me if I'm wrong).

Motivation - There's a big issue online with identification and authentication, sites want to know who they're dealing with and people want their details to be secure. Passwords just don't cut it any more... Given that there's a big opportunity for facebook (and others) to provide that service. Also loads of people ready to step up and take FB's social networking crown off them too (Google for one...) - if people lose trust in facebook's security it would be very damaging to their bottom line.

Poker sites, I'm not so sure, I think they'd be bothered, but not as much as facebook. Nothing would really surprise me any more though...

Talent - facebook has loads of talented engineers working on things like security (by that I mean keeping user data secure, identification etc), I doubt the poker sites can attract the same sort of talent or that the people they use they people they have (as much) to that end.

Abstraction is the right term (for what I think you mean), but I doubt it has much benefit here.

As to the deal I'd reckon it's a small thing for facebook and a big deal for the poker sites so the deal would be on FB's terms (see spotify). If I was FB I'd want as much control as possible - accounts funds etc - and just leave the running of the games to the poker site with a rake split. I wouldn't want to let people on the provider's software play against FB players - the grinders would multi table and get more money that way (I might be wrong? FB might not have the knowledge to demand that, although I'd imagine they'd want to force everyone to play through FB so they can get a cut).

Iron -wasn't Yahoo limit poker and before the explosion?


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: Ironside on December 01, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
i remember when yahoo started real money poker everyone thought it would be good for the game
wasnt really as people who wanted to play for real moneyalready did
and those that played yahoo poker for fun didnt move accross

facebook is an entirely different animal though.

yahoo was huge back then and the US market was still onboard if i remember right

bongo yeah yahoo was limit when i first played there not sure if it ever moved to NL


Title: Re: Please Let this Happen...
Post by: mulhuzz on December 01, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Experience - loads of poker sites have had data security breaches. I can't recall hearing of one on facebook that wasn't user side (correct me if I'm wrong).

Motivation - There's a big issue online with identification and authentication, sites want to know who they're dealing with and people want their details to be secure. Passwords just don't cut it any more... Given that there's a big opportunity for facebook (and others) to provide that service. Also loads of people ready to step up and take FB's social networking crown off them too (Google for one...) - if people lose trust in facebook's security it would be very damaging to their bottom line.

Poker sites, I'm not so sure, I think they'd be bothered, but not as much as facebook. Nothing would really surprise me any more though...

Talent - facebook has loads of talented engineers working on things like security (by that I mean keeping user data secure, identification etc), I doubt the poker sites can attract the same sort of talent or that the people they use they people they have (as much) to that end.

Abstraction is the right term (for what I think you mean), but I doubt it has much benefit here.

As to the deal I'd reckon it's a small thing for facebook and a big deal for the poker sites so the deal would be on FB's terms (see spotify). If I was FB I'd want as much control as possible - accounts funds etc - and just leave the running of the games to the poker site with a rake split. I wouldn't want to let people on the provider's software play against FB players - the grinders would multi table and get more money that way (I might be wrong? FB might not have the knowledge to demand that, although I'd imagine they'd want to force everyone to play through FB so they can get a cut).

Iron -wasn't Yahoo limit poker and before the explosion?

i really want to respond to this post in a lot of detail because it raises some really interesting points about what fb's perfect positioning in the market should be.

get ready from some tl;dr that is hopefully v interesting in the next couple of hours -- just need to finish a little something first :)