Title: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 05:33:29 PM im playing 5 comps on stars. wanna go to the shop for 10 mins, i ask a friend to "watch/play" my tables. this ok or not?
same thing but cash games? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: millidonk on December 04, 2011, 05:41:14 PM Fine with me. Few times when i have been deep but can't stay awake I have had ppl end it off for me. I know a lot of ppl don't like it, but in real life i think its fine.
Cash games i would probs just sit out. More so as I am likely to come back to no roll. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: titaniumbean on December 04, 2011, 05:51:55 PM im playing 5 comps on stars. wanna go to the shop for 10 mins, i ask a friend to "watch/play" my tables. this ok or not? same thing but cash games? it's against the rules, why does it matter what your personal ethical stance is? having someone play your account in cash is just multi accounting. sit out the tournaments or plan your grinds better? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: GreekStein on December 04, 2011, 05:54:50 PM for cash games its not on as you can sit out and it doesn't cost you any money - therefore there is no need to have someone take over.
For tournaments it wouldn't bother me as long as you werent someone who made a habit of it. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 06:07:03 PM Get mate to go to the shop for me
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: cambridgealex on December 04, 2011, 06:17:58 PM Get mate to go to the shop for me mate obv grinding too Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 06:19:42 PM As Andrew has already noted - the Thread title is incorrect - it should read "Rules" not "Ethics". One is a personal choice, the other is mandatory. And "it was just a few hands while I had a slash" cuts no ice. Where to draw the line? 1 minute for a slash? 3 minutes for a #2? 10 minutes for a smoke? 30 minutes to pop down the off-licence? 90 minutes to watch a game of football? Soon, the guy who plays 24 Tables for 18 hours per day wants a day off, & pleads "it was only one day". There are no excuses for it, the Rules are there to protect us, not the Online Room. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: gatso on December 04, 2011, 06:22:21 PM same thing but cash games? can only assume this question is a level Title: Re: ethic question Post by: cambridgealex on December 04, 2011, 06:22:48 PM As Andrew has already noted - the Thread title is incorrect - it should read "Rules" not "Ethics". One is a personal choice, the other is mandatory. And "it was just a few hands while I had a slash" cuts no ice. Where to draw the line? 1 minute for a slash? 3 minutes for a #2? 10 minutes for a smoke? 30 minutes to pop down the off-licence? 90 minutes to watch a game of football? Soon, the guy who plays 24 Tables for 18 hours per day wants a day off, & pleads "it was only one day". There are no excuses for it, the Rules are there to protect us, not the Online Room. Completely disagree. 3 minutes for a #2? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 06:25:03 PM same thing but cash games? can only assume this question is a level Just a bit. Punters - my Table oppos - would not be happy if I let a really good player "sit in" on my account for 5 minutes & who then won a nice few bob. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 06:25:09 PM Get mate to go to the shop for me mate obv grinding too Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 06:26:09 PM As Andrew has already noted - the Thread title is incorrect - it should read "Rules" not "Ethics". One is a personal choice, the other is mandatory. And "it was just a few hands while I had a slash" cuts no ice. Where to draw the line? 1 minute for a slash? 3 minutes for a #2? 10 minutes for a smoke? 30 minutes to pop down the off-licence? 90 minutes to watch a game of football? Soon, the guy who plays 24 Tables for 18 hours per day wants a day off, & pleads "it was only one day". There are no excuses for it, the Rules are there to protect us, not the Online Room. Completely disagree. 3 minutes for a #2? Squeeze play? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 06:26:59 PM same thing but cash games? can only assume this question is a level it was only a question, wasnt saying my opinion/thoughts. btw i thnk ending a tournamnet ala milligan is alot different/worse even if it is the same rules. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: GreekStein on December 04, 2011, 06:28:25 PM same thing but cash games? can only assume this question is a level it was only a question, wasnt saying my opinion/thoughts. btw i thnk ending a tournamnet ala milligan is alot different/worse even if it is the same rules. yes ending a tournament is far worse but why would u need to pop to the shops for 10 mins on the final of a tourney? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 06:28:45 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: titaniumbean on December 04, 2011, 06:30:09 PM Considering the money is paid out at the end someone watching your holecards in the first 5 mins is alot less bad then someone playing out the end of a donkie.
having said that if you know the rules you know you are breaking them. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2011, 06:30:54 PM First it's ethics, then it's ethic, pretty soon it becomes ethi, and then before you know where you are it's eth.
Where do you draw the line? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 06:31:13 PM Considering the money is paid out at the end someone watching your holecards in the first 5 mins is alot less bad then someone playing out the end of a donkie. having said that if you know the rules you know you are breaking them. ...or even if you don't know the rules. Ignorance is not an excuse, only mitigation. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: titaniumbean on December 04, 2011, 06:41:16 PM ya but I have alot more time for someone who has no idea of the rules rather than someone who knows the rules then says its ok though because it's on the internet and no one can see me and personally I dont mind it.
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: Woodsey on December 04, 2011, 06:43:24 PM In that spot I'd do it, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks tbh.
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2011, 06:44:17 PM In that spot I'd do it, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks tbh. You'd go for a shit without giving a shit? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 06:46:04 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: millidonk on December 04, 2011, 06:46:25 PM I thought i posted but it must not have been submitted.
If you take the stance that the rule is a rule and it should not be broken then the circumstance of when it was broken becomes irrelevant, be it at the beginning, middle or end of a tournament. Obv personally I see the rule as pretty much unenforceable, if i got caught then fair dos i take my punishment accordingly. Just like to point out it is not something i do as standard just a few times in the past when i have been unable to keep my eyes open after a long grind. would i do it in the future, almost certainly. I personally can't see the harm in it really under the circumstances mentioned, the fact it is a rule is not enough for me to personally follow it, i have to see some logic or common sense behind a certain rule. Unfortunately for my career in the forces i stood by this way of thinking quite firmly. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 06:46:56 PM i dont think he understood it was frowned upon tho and was abit startled playing the games too.
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: Woodsey on December 04, 2011, 06:49:05 PM In that spot I'd do it, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks tbh. You'd go for a shit without giving a shit? Thought he was going to the shops? If I was having a shit I'd take the lappy with me (http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt84/SVT-GT500/smileys/poop-1.gif) Title: Re: ethic question Post by: mulhuzz on December 04, 2011, 07:11:20 PM in cash it's completely not on.
in tournaments it might be ok if you've had a power cut and phone a friend to log in whilst you drive to his place or something. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: kinboshi on December 04, 2011, 07:13:42 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Why? Just sit out, surely? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: mulhuzz on December 04, 2011, 07:23:24 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Why? Just sit out, surely? I guesssssss that the NL1k reg in question (think I know who it is), is grinding for SNE and needs a lotttt of points. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 07:25:05 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Why? Just sit out, surely? I guesssssss that the NL1k reg in question (think I know who it is), is grinding for SNE and needs a lotttt of points. [/quoteis he from portugal? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: GreekStein on December 04, 2011, 07:27:31 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. million Title: Re: ethic question Post by: mulhuzz on December 04, 2011, 07:34:30 PM is he from portugal? the person I'm thinking of is not from Portugal, no. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: kinboshi on December 04, 2011, 07:40:59 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Why? Just sit out, surely? I guesssssss that the NL1k reg in question (think I know who it is), is grinding for SNE and needs a lotttt of points. Give up smoking? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2011, 07:41:41 PM My friend has a rash. Should I advise him to go to the doctor or just get some ointment from the chemist?
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: titaniumbean on December 04, 2011, 07:42:13 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Why? Just sit out, surely? I guesssssss that the NL1k reg in question (think I know who it is), is grinding for SNE and needs a lotttt of points. Give up smoking? how can you have 8 1k tables up and yet not be able to smoke where you grind ? Title: Re: ethic question Post by: doubleup on December 04, 2011, 07:46:22 PM In that spot I'd do it, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks tbh. Most thieves and muggers don't really care what people think. No one taught them ethic. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: Woodsey on December 04, 2011, 07:48:08 PM In that spot I'd do it, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks tbh. Most thieves and muggers don't really care what people think. No one taught them ethic. [ ] Is remotely the same Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 08:12:33 PM What prompted the question then, pleno? friend who plays NL50, was "looking after 8 tables of NL1K when his friend went for a smoke. Well that is a bit different to your OP, which said...... im playing 5 comps on stars. wanna go to the shop for 10 mins, i ask a friend to "watch/play" my tables. this ok or not? The thread absolutely intrigues me. Surely you of all people know it's against the rules, & if your mate is experienced enough to 8 Table he would also know it's against the Rules? Did the site that you or he were playing on ('Stars?) not have a "Sit Out" facility? 'Curiouser and curiouser!' cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English); Title: Re: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 08:16:45 PM i was just trying to say two scenarios it wasnt to do with me.
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 08:19:00 PM i was just trying to say two scenarios it wasnt to do with me. Oh, I see. Probably best just to say it as it is, we get to the answer quicker that way. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 08:19:28 PM ofc it wasnt tikay, I'm playing on SkyPoker.com!
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 08:19:53 PM i was just trying to say two scenarios it wasnt to do with me. this thread is starting to sound like "my mates got this massive spot on his willy. what shall i tell himtodo"edit: try get the spacebar fixed Title: Re: ethic question Post by: pleno1 on December 04, 2011, 08:23:35 PM lol hatersgonnahate,
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 08:25:11 PM lol hatersgonnahate, wish ihad been anywhere to catch a spot....its beena while :(Title: Re: ethic question Post by: doubleup on December 04, 2011, 08:28:37 PM In that spot I'd do it, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone thinks tbh. Most thieves and muggers don't really care what people think. No one taught them ethic. [ ] Is remotely the same We've established what you are; now we're just haggling over the price.... My point was anyway that what others think is (should be) irrelevant to whether something is right or wrong. Title: Re: ethic question Post by: tikay on December 04, 2011, 08:29:40 PM ofc it wasnt tikay, I'm playing on SkyPoker.com! I know, I'm watching. (See my Diary, too). Title: Re: ethic question Post by: MTT DESTROYER on December 04, 2011, 09:55:41 PM Suprises me how people actually get caught doing this.
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 09:59:44 PM :dontask: :dontask:
Suprises me how people actually get caught doing this. ;carlocitrone;post it on a poker forum :dontask: Title: Re: ethic question Post by: MTT DESTROYER on December 04, 2011, 10:01:51 PM Lol really?
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2011, 10:07:05 PM just messing...bored tonight having a shift on line :(
Title: Re: ethic question Post by: mondatoo on December 05, 2011, 01:56:31 AM As Andrew has already noted - the Thread title is incorrect - it should read "Rules" not "Ethics". One is a personal choice, the other is mandatory. And "it was just a few hands while I had a slash" cuts no ice. Where to draw the line? 1 minute for a slash? 3 minutes for a #2? 10 minutes for a smoke? 30 minutes to pop down the off-licence? 90 minutes to watch a game of football? Soon, the guy who plays 24 Tables for 18 hours per day wants a day off, & pleads "it was only one day". There are no excuses for it, the Rules are there to protect us, not the Online Room. Oh no, who found me out :( |