Title: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: TightEnd on December 05, 2011, 01:11:02 PM The Everleaf Gaming Network has begun to restrict winning players by limiting their access to certain tables. In addition, those that attempt to sit with winning players receive a pop-up message discouraging participation.
Arguing that it maintains a “healthy player and financial balance within the card room,” players with weekly winnings in excess of €750 at cash tables will be limited to only playing at certain tables. When trying to join a restricted table, winners receive a message notifying them they cannot join the table because their “player rating is too high.” When lower-rated players try to join the table of winning players, they are presented with a warning that “the rating of the table is higher than yours, do you really want to play on this table?” The “rating system” used to warn and restrict players appears to be a automated system based on the amount the player has won during the week, separate to the preexisting system of players rating each other by a stars-based classification. Weekly accumulated winnings of each player “will be reset at 00:00 every Sunday,” at which point “all the tables will be made available again.” The exact parameters on which tables a successful poker player can and cannot play have not been disclosed by the network. In response to criticism of the move by players on the network, a representative of Minted Poker – one of the primary brands on the US-facing network – responded by stating the changes impact “less than 0.004% of the entire player pool … It is this 0.004% of the player pool that accounts for over 50% of the net win on the entire network.” Although the representative stated that Minted “are in no way attempting to justify this decision” and that the room “was bound by the rules of the network,” they felt that all who “fall into the remaining 99.996% of the player pool … will have easier games.” http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room-news/everleaf-network-throttles-winning-players/ :dontask: Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: tikay on December 05, 2011, 01:17:14 PM Love the thread title, too good! Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: pleno1 on December 05, 2011, 01:36:17 PM it actually makes alot of sense and is really good for their network, but they're doing it wrong.
they realise a good poker ecology is super important but just implementing changes too erratically/wrong. Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: doubleup on December 05, 2011, 02:07:22 PM Its a network- they are just going to get a massive increase in multi-accounting and chip dumping. Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: pleno1 on December 05, 2011, 02:23:28 PM Its a network Who said it was anything different? they are just going to get a massive increase in multi-accounting and chip dumping. Why? I think they are more likely to just get all regs to withdraw. = success for them. Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: edgascoigne on December 05, 2011, 04:33:53 PM Not entirely dissimilar to a poker equivalent of Betfair's much maligned premium charge.
As pleno states, support of the ecosystem is hugely important. Rakeback (ie. a reward for multi-tabling breakeven/winning players) actually rewards exactly the wrong people (in terms of longterm platform profitability). The money made by a Poker company over the year, though = to the sum of the rake paid, is also = (Total Deposits - Total Withdrawals - Total Customer Balances) If you can increase the first part of the equation from recreational souls, decrease the second part through discouraging winners and keep the third part constant, your revenues go up. Without the fresh meat the whole thing eventually cannibalises itself. Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: DaveShoelace on December 05, 2011, 06:00:25 PM Like the direction they want to go in, hate the implementation.
Promotes multi-accounting and changing skins, which is obviously bad for the network. I know this is supposed to protect the new players, but it might actually serve to make them feel excluded and weak, by not letting them play the games they want. Also, it stops one of the greatest experiences a new player can have, and long term this could be very bad, and that is the joyful feeling a new player gets when they run like god and steamroll a table of better players. The fact you can beat anyone in poker is one of the big appeals, but this way wont give the fish a chance. Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: mulhuzz on December 05, 2011, 10:34:47 PM it actually makes alot of sense and is really good for their network, but they're doing it wrong. they realise a good poker ecology is super important but just implementing changes too erratically/wrong. Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: gatso on December 05, 2011, 10:39:34 PM so monday morning I play til I win 750, then switch networks til I win another 750, rinse and repeat until next monday when I start the cycle again. how is this helping anyone?
Title: Re: Network (off the) Rail? Post by: titaniumbean on December 06, 2011, 12:11:44 AM so monday morning I play til I win 750, then switch networks til I win another 750, rinse and repeat until next monday when I start the cycle again. how is this helping anyone? when a fish does a massive heater and is then told sorry sir you have to sit with mr pro and mr sicko even though most weeks you do your absolute nuts in. expert plan all round. wp people in charge you're not cretins.... |