blonde poker forum

Poker Forums => Poker Hand Analysis => Topic started by: muckthenuts on December 06, 2011, 04:25:26 PM



Title: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: muckthenuts on December 06, 2011, 04:25:26 PM
Opponent in this hand is CaiCai, the very quiet Chinese Broadway reg who won the dtd deepstack recently. She's definitely capable of some moves but generally plays tight and straightforward and i also think she peels/calls pretty loosely at times. I've gone from tight initially to noticeably more active lately on a fairly weak table that i'm now starting to run over.

7 Handed

Eff stacks £1.2k

I open  9h 5h utg to £15. CaiCai calls utg+1, utg+2 calls (very straightforward player), everyone else folds.

Flop  Th 9d 6h

I cbet £25, CaiCai calls pretty quickly, utg+2 calls

Turn  3h

I bet £80, wanting to go on the larger side. CaiCai thinks for a while then eventually makes it £210. Utg+2 folds.

Plan? What's your happiness level here also?

Cheers


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: George2Loose on December 06, 2011, 05:00:35 PM
I tend to call here and re-evaluate river but obv being OOP sucks. Fold pre?

Opponent tendencies are key here. Have u seen her raise combo draws/bare flush draws/bluffs in this spot before. Pretty pukeworthy spot if not. Maybe fold and never tell anyone.


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: Pugwashed on December 06, 2011, 05:19:51 PM
I'm super unhappy here. I'd imagine sets/straights get raised on the flop most of the time. You said she call/peels pretty loose so this might come down to whether you think she's capable of turning hands into bluffs. Call turn / fold river feels kinda bad as she should probably never be raising turn as a bluff and giving up on the river, but if she is only firing once as a bluff then its probably fine. Seems kinda awkward without more reads.

When she raises here into 2 players I might just nit up, fold turn and lie if asked what I folded. (As you know, this probably isn't what I do in game)


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: pleno1 on December 06, 2011, 06:00:18 PM
fish regs raise sets/striaghts that they slowplayed otf when they thought they had the nuts otf and getting scared as more hearts come.


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: cambridgealex on December 06, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
call/ re/eval river

fold pre, 7handed i think it's too loose to open this utg.


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 06, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
I know this wasnt the point but preflop is a really bad open imo, just absolutely no need to get into flair wars OOP with junky hands in a soft live cash game, creates variance that will you just don't need, and put yourself on the worlds softest table if you have 95 when they all have K8 and AJ you're gonna struggle to win.

Gain your edge from just having better hands than everyone else all the time and sit back stress free and enjoy imo.

as played call now and then prolly fold the river unless you have a reason to bluff catch, the nrevert back to my earlier point and wonder why opening UTG you dont have Ahrt Jh and remember not to get into this spot again


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: ih8winning on December 07, 2011, 02:22:59 AM
Horrible spot dude I do fold 9h5h under the gun though! She was playing so ABC the whole night, She does always seems to have it. My read is that she doesnt really want to get out of line in pots against me and you. On the turn i would have probaby called fast and folded the river faster! Problem with that is I dont think she ever raises the turn here with 2 people still 2 act without the nuts shes just way to nitty. Ill explain a hand i played with her tht same night soon. Only other hand i can put in her range is a flopped straight which she may raise then check back the river so u could maybe call and lead smallish on the river and fold to a raise. She flats all sets here without a doubt. Sick Spot but your never getting in here against her with worse. My line would probably have been call turn fold river and I wouldnt put it past her checking back the river if the board pairs!

3betting the flop small and folding to a shove is also a option which sounds ridiculous but against her I think is fine. Obv if she flats u check fold river 2.


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 07, 2011, 03:44:59 AM
3betting the flop small and folding to a shove is also a option which sounds ridiculous but against her I think is fine.

you mean the turn?


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: DMorgan on December 07, 2011, 04:13:29 AM
I open  9h 5h utg to £15

Orly?

Plan?

Not this



Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: AlexMartin on December 07, 2011, 04:22:01 AM

haha.

200+bb poker gets you in horrendous spots when you open this wide.

as played id fold tun. my happiness level would be between facepalm and self-uppercut.



Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: ih8winning on December 07, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
3betting the flop small and folding to a shove is also a option which sounds ridiculous but against her I think is fine.

you mean the turn?

yeh The turn obv....Sick but seems like a cool option given the opponent plus u could tell every1 u 3bet folded a flush on the turn


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2011, 09:24:54 AM
...my happiness level would be between facepalm and self-uppercut.

A+++++


Title: Re: Rare opportunity for a £2-5 broadway spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 07, 2011, 10:33:20 AM
I think 3betting turn is only better than call turn/reval river if shes betting less than our 3bet size on the river. I.e, if we 3bet turn to 475- Is this really better than calling turn 130 more and calling a river bet of say 330- esp given the option to fold to a large river bet. I can't see folding turn as an option unless she is that tight. A speedy flop call does indicate a drawing hand is more likely than a straight or set imo