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Blinds 75/150 £90 sat to MC

I'm in SB with  Ks Ac.

3 limpers, Lawrence Gosling makes it 300, dealer flats 300

Lawrence has been pretty splashy so far, and probably sees me as active, spewy and bluffy. I've been playing like a nit but I'm young looking and he went to c/r me when i was pfr on a KJ4r board and claimed KT after the hand. I had AQ and went to showdown with backdoor QQ and won the pot. We're both 20kish deep and everyone else has about 10k or less

any option is fine this deep (even fold with Lawrence in the hand)  ;)

Make it 1500-2000

if he 4bets? Problem was at least one of the limpers could easily call a 1.5k 3bet and then i'm in a shitty spot on most flops

this deep, i think AK is roughly the same hand as 55 oop, so I just peel.

like

its def a peel this early and oop

Feeling happier about my decision to peel and not 3bet now. Thanks guys.

I 3-bet here against lawrence.

Hiiiighly unlikely anyone is flatting the 300 and fairly likely lawrence will spazz off pre or post.

I don't know this player, is he likely to go crazy with weaker aces and less this early?  Personally I like a peel, but 3bet is fine also.

Just re-read op.

Is lawrence gosling a different person to lawrence gosney or was it a typo? My post refers to the latter

Nah this is lawrence gosney hes on abt.

Then yeh I like a 3bet.

what do you expect him to continue with given he's ip?

I imagine this deep he has basically 0 4bet range? If I'm wrong, what's his 4bet-range and if he 4bets, what's our plan?

I'd actually consider 3bet/folding here vs Lawrence, he'll peel just about everything though I reckon, which will include alot of dominated hands.

I would never 3-bet fold vs him with ak, in a satellite or not.

He will peel a bunch and jam worse too just cos he thinks you're an over aggro young gun.

jamming? with 4bets 20k deep at 75/150?

let's say we make it 1100, you expect him to just put 20k in with worse? i don't know the guy from adam, maybe he would, but seems like he'd just peel everything he's raised with.

if we think he can defo jam worse, I prefer tossing 6k out there and making it look like a mistake. 'shit i thought that 5k chip was a 500', or something ;)

side question: is doing something like that (the toss out the 'wrong' chip) bad etiquette/against the rules/morally bad?

Argh I didn't see we were both 20k deep! I thought lawrence was 10k deep.

Yeh I prob peel for deception and being oop etc but if I could cherry pick some guys I think I could induce to get that many bigs in vs my ak and still be in great shape, mr gosney would be in my top 2.

i 3b fold.

Slam dunk 3b pre. Nobodys hand looks all that strong and you'll often still get one or two people putting additional chips in with a range way behind our hand with plenty left in stacks to manoevure post. Saying that AK = 55 is ridiculous btw

If Lawrence does 4bet evaluate but doubt i'd fold. Blockers and he plays weird.

He does play weird, and def wouldn't give me any respect. At this point i had a lot more information about him then he had about me, because my dads played with him. I guess he saw me as competent and aggro and i just didn't want to 3b and fold, or 3b/call and him be laughing in my face, because he has minned a premium. Esp because he had the only two people on his left that might 3b, Skippy on this forum. Also, the shortish chinese gambler might put it in and i can reshove and get Gosney out.

6k thing is def dirty and something i would never do

3 bet's pretty bad against Lawrence from what I know.

If you 3 bet he'll peel any 2 and will give up on any board that contains an A or K because he'll put you on a big hand.

Even if he's got an A or K, himself unless he makes 2 pair he's not going to put too much more in the pot.

Peel pre definitely best to disguise the strength of your hand.

this

LOL what matt?

Lawrence gonna give up when an a or k hits?

If the flop comes a93 and he has 34 / 910 / ax / 1010 he isn't 'not putting much more in the pot' as you say.

Maybe I just played against him a few times when he was playing uber terrible.

In dtd monte carlo last time I busted him in like level 3 when he check raised  turn for like 4x pot after I'd checked back top pair on the flop having raised pre and him defended. I called with top pair, no kicker and held vs his flush draw and no overcard to my jack. Was only like 100 bigs he gave me there tho :)

Just what I've seen when I've played him that's all.

Maybe he mixes it up more than we know which makes it even tougher to play against him.

I know he's very unpredictable that's for sure.

3 bet smallish to take lead in pot cos he's not folding anything pre this deep

lol @ lawrence holding an A or K in this hand

maybe like a K7s or something

This deep Lawrence is just going to make you squirm post flop - just call and play the hand oop and for value

Why u nuthug him so much guy

im not, i think i could play against lawrence better than most ppl in this thread  - i have played with him alot

and 3 betting AK this deep OOP is going to be a losing play much of the time