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Title: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Eso Kral on December 19, 2011, 11:29:51 AM Driving back to Essex was not sure if I made a bad shove to exit the MC what do we think?
Villain is Mark Chantler who has been solid for the few hours we have been on the same table and has been in involved in a few pots with Sam Mcdonald and come off fairly even, villain 2 had been up and down and been in loads of pots and has just doubled the hand before back up to 190k but has not shown down any bad holdings. I was short stack at start of day and got a double through over jamming a Mcdonald ep raise with 4d 4h for 21bb's and getting there vs sb Ks Kh and since then I have 3 bet a mp raise with Ahrt Qd otb and got a cbet through on a K63 board but lost a pot vs villain 2 when he was short and jammed mp for 28bb's and i had 7d 7h in the bb losing to his 9c 9s, since being back to 15-20bbs I have jammed and won 2 uncontested pots vs Sam but had pairs both times although not shown. Mark's playing 250k Villain 2 190k Me 42k 58 left 27 paid Blinds 1200/2400/200 Mark raises to 5100 utg and villain flats utg+2 and it folds to me with Ts Qs in the BB Its an ok shove yh? Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: c4ught on December 19, 2011, 12:11:31 PM Very bottom of our range imo.
Are you on the BB? Dont think you mentioned how many people left to act behind you! If UTG is solid how wide do we expect him to raise from UTG? From your info I think UTG+2 is calling to wide to make this a shove. I fold. Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Girgy85 on December 19, 2011, 12:14:54 PM I fold too.
Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Eso Kral on December 19, 2011, 12:20:03 PM Very bottom of our range imo. Sorry amended the BBAre you on the BB? Dont think you mentioned how many people left to act behind you! If UTG is solid how wide do we expect him to raise from UTG? From your info I think UTG+2 is calling to wide to make this a shove. I fold. I think UTG raises most Ax here and all pp UTG+2 calls all pp 22-99 imo and rr AQ+ 1010+ Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: outragous76 on December 19, 2011, 12:26:35 PM yeah - i remember when i read the update thinking "ewwwwwwww dont like"
its still my opinion tbh. I mean i probably isnt terrible, but live i hate it. just fold, you have 20bbs and a better spot will present itself Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Eso Kral on December 19, 2011, 12:27:35 PM yeah - i remember when i read the update thinking "ewwwwwwww dont like" Online?its still my opinion tbh. I mean i probably isnt terrible, but live i hate it. just fold, you have 20bbs and a better spot will present itself Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: outragous76 on December 19, 2011, 12:30:12 PM yeah - i remember when i read the update thinking "ewwwwwwww dont like" Online?its still my opinion tbh. I mean i probably isnt terrible, but live i hate it. just fold, you have 20bbs and a better spot will present itself depends on dynamic but again not terrible - it would have to be vs a serial opener Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: George2Loose on December 19, 2011, 01:26:50 PM Sometimes when people open utg I level myself into thinking they're stealing from the "new button"
In my experience this happens so much less than people think. Just fold. Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2011, 01:55:23 PM its a fine hand to jam imo, but just abso no need to do it here
Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: pleno1 on December 19, 2011, 02:21:20 PM mark is good and will be opening v.wide, hes very read deprndnt and adjusts alot, ur old, so he will sigh fold alot of the time so its probably ok.
Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Eso Kral on December 19, 2011, 02:33:49 PM mark is good and will be opening v.wide, hes very read deprndnt and adjusts alot, ur old, so he will sigh fold alot of the time so its probably ok. NHTitle: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Pugwashed on December 19, 2011, 06:04:15 PM Almost certainly a fold. I might go with something like 77+ ATs+ AJo+ KQs
Title: Re: Monte Carlo Exit Hand Post by: Boba Fett on December 19, 2011, 06:25:12 PM Driving back to Essex was not sure if I made a bad shove to exit the MC what do we think? 28bbs isnt that short, did he open shove 28bbs from MP or jam over a raise or raise/shove v your 3bet? how did you range him at the time?Villain is Mark Chantler who has been solid for the few hours we have been on the same table and has been in involved in a few pots with Sam Mcdonald and come off fairly even, villain 2 had been up and down and been in loads of pots and has just doubled the hand before back up to 190k but has not shown down any bad holdings. I was short stack at start of day and got a double through over jamming a Mcdonald ep raise with 4d 4h for 21bb's and getting there vs sb Ks Kh and since then I have 3 bet a mp raise with Ahrt Qd otb and got a cbet through on a K63 board but lost a pot vs villain 2 when he was short and jammed mp for 28bb's and i had 7d 7h in the bb losing to his 9c 9s, since being back to 15-20bbs I have jammed and won 2 uncontested pots vs Sam but had pairs both times although not shown. Mark's playing 250k Villain 2 190k Me 42k 58 left 27 paid Blinds 1200/2400/200 Mark raises to 5100 utg and villain flats utg+2 and it folds to me with Ts Qs in the BB Its an ok shove yh? |