Title: D'oh! missclick Post by: Pinchop73 on December 22, 2011, 12:18:36 AM So this hand I felt played a part in the reason for my post.
PokerStars Game #72558532530: Tournament #552010723, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/12/21 23:03:41 WET [2011/12/21 18:03:41 ET] Table '552010723 7' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: GGgrampGreed (7500 in chips) Seat 2: mathawker (7650 in chips) Seat 3: jANJKE (7370 in chips) Seat 4: rivermanl (7535 in chips) Seat 5: Dilizer (2710 in chips) Seat 6: Ultraballs18 (5000 in chips) Seat 7: KTheGreat1 (7470 in chips) Seat 9: MystikalD (10085 in chips) Dilizer: posts small blind 15 Ultraballs18: posts big blind 30 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ultraballs18 [Jd As] KTheGreat1: folds MystikalD: folds GGgrampGreed: folds mathawker: folds jANJKE: folds abelja9 is connected rivermanl: raises 60 to 90 Dilizer: folds Ultraballs18: calls 60 *** FLOP *** [9s Qs 9h] Ultraballs18: checks rivermanl: bets 79 Ultraballs18: calls 79 *** TURN *** [9s Qs 9h] [2c] Ultraballs18: checks rivermanl: checks *** RIVER *** [9s Qs 9h 2c] [4s] Ultraballs18: checks rivermanl: bets 195 Ultraballs18: raises 270 to 465 rivermanl: folds A few minutes after this hand, I see that I get dealt JJ's ftg. I go to click the raise slider, but its as if the window is dead. All my tables had frozen. F#ck. Then in the mild panic of pressing every part of the screen I could to get us going again, the connection comes live and I've clicked call instead of the raising bar. FML! PokerStars Game #72559132380: Tournament #552010723, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2011/12/21 23:14:47 WET [2011/12/21 18:14:47 ET] Table '552010723 7' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: GGgrampGreed (9270 in chips) Seat 2: mathawker (7600 in chips) Seat 3: jANJKE (7190 in chips) Seat 4: rivermanl (9706 in chips) Seat 5: Dilizer (2860 in chips) Seat 6: Ultraballs18 (5364 in chips) Seat 7: KTheGreat1 (5700 in chips) Seat 8: abelja9 (2165 in chips) Seat 9: HunaMatata (2880 in chips) rivermanl: posts small blind 20 Dilizer: posts big blind 40 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ultraballs18 [Jh Jc] Ultraballs18: calls 40 KTheGreat1: folds abelja9: raises 200 to 240 HunaMatata: folds GGgrampGreed: folds mathawker: folds jANJKE: folds rivermanl: raises 300 to 540 Dilizer: folds Ultraballs18: raises 1360 to 1900 abelja9: folds rivermanl: raises 7806 to 9706 and is all-in Ultraballs18: calls 3464 and is all-in Uncalled bet (4342) returned to rivermanl *** FLOP *** [Qh 3h 9c] *** TURN *** [Qh 3h 9c] [9h] *** RIVER *** [Qh 3h 9c 9h] [2h] *** SHOW DOWN *** rivermanl: shows [Ac Ah] (a flush, Ace high) Ultraballs18: shows [Jh Jc] (a flush, Queen high) rivermanl collected 11008 from pot I had the or marked down as a non competent player having looked him up on opr, so I obv felt Mr.Haughton had him pined as such too. I felt rivermanl could be 3b/f a decent amount of the time over the top of a sqeezy lookiing raise over an utg limp, I felt his range in this spot vs this particular villain was wide enough for me to go ahead and 4b/c. I decided I was going to be 4b/c because of the dynamic from the previous hand. I felt the utglimp>4b sqeeze sizing looked spazzy enough to make it look FOS (which I sigh guess it is? SIGH) which would widen Rivermanl's 5b shoving range enough to make calling nearly 100bb's off profitable. Is this incredibly terrible reasoning? Was this really spewy this early on? I tried to size my 4b for a go and go. Terribad? Apart from the disaster at the start of the hand, where else did I f#ck up? Who prefers small4b/f rather than calling in pos? Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: Pinchop73 on December 22, 2011, 12:52:54 AM CL in this now
pure diiiiirt lol PokerStars Game #72564577663: Tournament #552010723, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2011/12/22 1:19:52 WET [2011/12/21 20:19:52 ET] Table '552010723 18' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: whereisdonny (13321 in chips) Seat 2: Flush_Entity (12625 in chips) Seat 3: Pghfan987 (6167 in chips) Seat 4: Ultraballs18 (35631 in chips) Seat 5: englezu (8905 in chips) Seat 6: GuLuAr (17106 in chips) Seat 7: 011PokerDr (6967 in chips) Seat 8: rastafari898 (30114 in chips) Seat 9: wugwugwugwug (29740 in chips) whereisdonny: posts the ante 60 Flush_Entity: posts the ante 60 Pghfan987: posts the ante 60 Ultraballs18: posts the ante 60 englezu: posts the ante 60 GuLuAr: posts the ante 60 011PokerDr: posts the ante 60 rastafari898: posts the ante 60 wugwugwugwug: posts the ante 60 englezu: posts small blind 250 GuLuAr: posts big blind 500 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ultraballs18 [2s Kh] 011PokerDr: folds rastafari898: folds wugwugwugwug: folds whereisdonny: folds Flush_Entity: folds Pghfan987: folds Ultraballs18: raises 500 to 1000 englezu: calls 750 GuLuAr: calls 500 *** FLOP *** [4h Ac As] englezu: checks GuLuAr: checks Ultraballs18: checks *** TURN *** [4h Ac As] [Ad] englezu: checks GuLuAr: bets 2000 Ultraballs18: calls 2000 englezu: calls 2000 *** RIVER *** [4h Ac As Ad] [Ah] englezu: checks GuLuAr: bets 3000 Ultraballs18: raises 29571 to 32571 and is all-in englezu: folds GuLuAr: calls 11046 and is all-in Uncalled bet (18525) returned to Ultraballs18 *** SHOW DOWN *** Ultraballs18: shows [2s Kh] (four of a kind, Aces) GuLuAr: shows [Qs 4s] (four of a kind, Aces - lower kicker) Ultraballs18 collected 37632 from pot Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 02:51:44 AM riverman isn't doing anything out of line at 20/40 level imo. that jj is huge spew
Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: pleno1 on December 22, 2011, 11:56:55 AM huge spew, just raise and fold by the time it gets 4bet.
Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: Rupert on December 22, 2011, 07:22:55 PM riverman isn't doing anything out of line at 20/40 level imo. that jj is huge spew don't forget the AJ Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: Royal Flush on December 22, 2011, 07:30:47 PM Riverman is a nit, even if he was a lunatic its still spew that early.
Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: AlexMartin on December 22, 2011, 10:08:49 PM the sizing is ridiculous tbh.
Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:56:58 PM So this hand I felt played a part in the reason for my post. PokerStars Game #72558532530: Tournament #552010723, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/12/21 23:03:41 WET [2011/12/21 18:03:41 ET] Table '552010723 7' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: GGgrampGreed (7500 in chips) Seat 2: mathawker (7650 in chips) Seat 3: jANJKE (7370 in chips) Seat 4: rivermanl (7535 in chips) Seat 5: Dilizer (2710 in chips) Seat 6: Ultraballs18 (5000 in chips) Seat 7: KTheGreat1 (7470 in chips) Seat 9: MystikalD (10085 in chips) Dilizer: posts small blind 15 Ultraballs18: posts big blind 30 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ultraballs18 [Jd As] KTheGreat1: folds MystikalD: folds GGgrampGreed: folds mathawker: folds jANJKE: folds abelja9 is connected rivermanl: raises 60 to 90 Dilizer: folds Ultraballs18: calls 60 *** FLOP *** [9s Qs 9h] Ultraballs18: checks rivermanl: bets 79 Ultraballs18: calls 79 *** TURN *** [9s Qs 9h] [2c] Ultraballs18: checks rivermanl: checks *** RIVER *** [9s Qs 9h 2c] [4s] Ultraballs18: checks rivermanl: bets 195 Ultraballs18: raises 270 to 465 rivermanl: folds A few minutes after this hand, I see that I get dealt JJ's ftg. I go to click the raise slider, but its as if the window is dead. All my tables had frozen. F#ck. Then in the mild panic of pressing every part of the screen I could to get us going again, the connection comes live and I've clicked call instead of the raising bar. FML! PokerStars Game #72559132380: Tournament #552010723, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2011/12/21 23:14:47 WET [2011/12/21 18:14:47 ET] Table '552010723 7' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: GGgrampGreed (9270 in chips) Seat 2: mathawker (7600 in chips) Seat 3: jANJKE (7190 in chips) Seat 4: rivermanl (9706 in chips) Seat 5: Dilizer (2860 in chips) Seat 6: Ultraballs18 (5364 in chips) Seat 7: KTheGreat1 (5700 in chips) Seat 8: abelja9 (2165 in chips) Seat 9: HunaMatata (2880 in chips) rivermanl: posts small blind 20 Dilizer: posts big blind 40 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ultraballs18 [Jh Jc] Ultraballs18: calls 40 KTheGreat1: folds abelja9: raises 200 to 240 HunaMatata: folds GGgrampGreed: folds mathawker: folds jANJKE: folds rivermanl: raises 300 to 540 Dilizer: folds Ultraballs18: raises 1360 to 1900 abelja9: folds rivermanl: raises 7806 to 9706 and is all-in Ultraballs18: calls 3464 and is all-in Uncalled bet (4342) returned to rivermanl *** FLOP *** [Qh 3h 9c] *** TURN *** [Qh 3h 9c] [9h] *** RIVER *** [Qh 3h 9c 9h] [2h] *** SHOW DOWN *** rivermanl: shows [Ac Ah] (a flush, Ace high) Ultraballs18: shows [Jh Jc] (a flush, Queen high) rivermanl collected 11008 from pot I had the or marked down as a non competent player having looked him up on opr, so I obv felt Mr.Haughton had him pined as such too. I felt rivermanl could be 3b/f a decent amount of the time over the top of a sqeezy lookiing raise over an utg limp, I felt his range in this spot vs this particular villain was wide enough for me to go ahead and 4b/c. I decided I was going to be 4b/c because of the dynamic from the previous hand. I felt the utglimp>4b sqeeze sizing looked spazzy enough to make it look FOS (which I sigh guess it is? SIGH) which would widen Rivermanl's 5b shoving range enough to make calling nearly 100bb's off profitable. Is this incredibly terrible reasoning? Was this really spewy this early on? I tried to size my 4b for a go and go. Terribad? Apart from the disaster at the start of the hand, where else did I f#ck up? Who prefers small4b/f rather than calling in pos? riverman never folding after his 3bet fwiw also you dont leave him any room to spew as he has no fold equity its an awful play if im honest. Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:58:59 PM even if the hand was at 500/1k the size of the iso which still gets 3bet would make me fold here if i misclicked limped.
Title: Re: D'oh! missclick Post by: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:41:28 PM yh riverman's 3b a guy who's 5x ISO'd a UTG limp from UTG3 with no antes, like the actual worst spot ever to 3bet light/even remotely thin for value. Its a clear clear fold.
this wont be true of everyone but Im pretty confident laurence wont have even AKsooted here hardly ever, or QQ even for that matter |