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last night at luton g cassino,a club i have been a member for for over 25 years the card room manager in reply to a comment from me announced to my poker table and any one else that was listening ...that i was the most ignorant person that he had ever met in the luton g cassino

i got up from my poker table and challenged along the lines of ...how dare he talk to me like that...and insisted that we go immediatley and get the senior cassino manager...around the corner we found the manager and i strongley protested that iwas not going to be spocken to like that in front of other club members...i stated that unless george appoligised to me in front of the people that he had slandered me to i would be leaveing this club and never crossing its door again....and they had 3 minutes to do it in
i then returned to my poker table ...george returne d to his work station and got on with his work.....after about 10 minutes i whent over and asked george if he was going to appoligise ...he replied no he wasnt...

i then caught the poker players attention by raising my voice and announcing the facts of me being insullted by george and him not being a big enouth man to appoligise ...i then left the card room as i got a few yards away around the corner i heard laughter and a spontsgouse ripple of applause ...either for me or ..more likley..some whits little comment against me being applouded

i took my entrey card folded it and dropped it of at the cash hatch ,telling the girl to please give it to the management to file....at the entrey i picked up my coat bid the girls that work there a good night ...they at least havnt lost sight of the fact that every one that enters is a customer...

on the scale of things its less than a speck of dust...so a member of staff holds a customer in such low regard that he decides its okay to say ...your the most ignorant person ive ever met...
the on duty manager dousent even enter the card room to intercede...presumeley hes asked george what happened ,and is he going to appoligise to which george has replied hes not going to appoligise....the onley grounds for him doing that would be if hes right ...and imam the most ignorrant person hes ever met ...and there fore by not makeing george appoligise he as the head repressentive of g cassinohas endorced that georges actions are all fine and in order

to all the poker players that it has been my privalage to know at luton i say thank you and good bye, maybe see you at dtd ect

Sorry to hear about this Tom. Fairly sure it was Nirvana that made a 'witty remark' when you left. I cringed. See you around.

you sure it was glenn...the onley reason i ask is your condolances were on here before i actualey posted ,
cheers

Sounds harsh Tom..... Why did George say that to you? What happened to cause the initial statement from George?

Don't how that is possible?

Norrrrrrrrrrrrr, don't go Bernard. Always have liked sharing a table with you.

Wasn't there when it happened but would imagine it was Glenn who stuck the knife in. Don't take it imo.

i was there and can confirm it was glenn

confirmed glenn

Are you allowed to grass on members?

really feeling the urge to make a sensible post but probably pretty pointless, so I'll just make this equally pointless post instead :)

alas too late clare bear admits she has feeling about china mug

Did George give no reason for his outburst?

the initial words with george were me asking for the dealer on my table to be bumped as he was not very good...30 to 40 mins latter it was done i called out to george he ignored me ,i asked him why  he wasnt answering he then stated the reason was ...that i was the most ignorant person he had ever met in luton g ...
he is then backed up by duty managers aggreement that he need not appologise ....i vote with my feet and take my 2 to 3 thousand pounds a year poker money else where
lesson learnt
take me out of your fantasy team,and sell any shares in luton g,
simmples

Shame it worked out like that.

Gotta feel a bit sorry for the dealer here too I suppose...

sigh can't help myself.

Tom.  Some introspection might be a good idea here.  I've seen George deal with many a 'difficult' character in that card room over the years.  Imho he is even handed and shows immense patience.  For him to have commented as he did I am presuming that you made a comment that could, quite reasonably, be regarded as 'ignorant' (although we cannot judge as you haven't told us what you actually said).

If I were in your shoes and someone said that to me, rather than kicking up a fuss and drawing attention to the whole thing as you did I would be questioning whether what I had said had, indeed, been out of order, and whether an apology was required of me to George and/or those present.  I'm sure there were no snide remarks prompting the laughter and ripple of applause you described - it sounds like you put on enough of a show yourself to prompt that reaction.

If we don't see you at the G again, good luck.

my last post crossed with the explanation.  frankly i'd be amazed if there wasn't more to it than that.

Don't know these characters but if you enjoy playing at Luton cassino you should apologise for cutting up one of his team in public fashion. This will prove beyond doubt you are not the most ignorant person in the world (thus claiming your first victory) and you wont be forced to drive to Nottingham for poker (thus claiming your second). If you don't enjoy playing there no problem, fck em.

If you'd got up and had a quiet word in the guy's ear about the quality of the dealer then I understand you're upset.

If you shouted across the room for him to be changed then I can understand the manager's response.

What Glenn said was bang out of line whichever one of the above happened.

I thought you was there

Cardroom manager dealt with this horribly. He really needs to think about how to keep a decent atmosphere and diffuse such situations.

You however have berated a dealer publicly instead of mentioning it quietl to the manager and he could give advice based on your concern, therefore helping your local card room and also not making someone feel needlessly targeted in their place of work.

Equally getting up and demanding this and that rarely works the way we want. Yet by folding your membershipin half and walking out they lose a customer who brings in3k worth of money to the company, yet they alsi lose somebody who publicly ridicules their staff instead of improve the room.

Attitude adjustments needed all round.

Get all the other Chinese on the casino to walk out as well. Seen this a few times and always has the desired affect

other?

Bahahaha

Jason you are sheer class m8

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Are you not Greek?

Ty gouty

my asking george to change the dealer by bumping was done discretly one to one with out the dealer knowing about it ,30 to 40 mins latter my call to george which was un answered and then my enquiery as to why had he not answered me was when he gave his oppinion on my ignorance level,i dont beleve his comment was in reply to me haveing a verbal go at the dealer as i had not done so,,.....the acid test for this comes down to a very simple question,namely is it ..ok..for a member of staff to state ...you are the most ignorant person i have ever met....and then to not be repromanded in any way by the management when called to do so,
what would be the case if at a poker table ...i...or any other player declared the same to another member....would they not be required to appoligise
and if the same was to the dealer by me or another member would the g cassino not have a duty to look into the matter and demand a appolagy.
as to do i owe a appolagy to george or g cassino for my behavour they are most welcome to a full written appology in a nice gold frame when they explain what and why i should be appolagiseing about....

i fully expect g cassino will spend money next year on a marketing company which will come up with new ideas to maximise there market share......nowhere amongst the marketing stratgys will it say...and if at all possible insult regular customers so they take there business else where so like yesterdays news paper it grows boreing and we all move on ....
on the bright side i dont think ive recieved so many replies to a blog on blond before ,and of cource i will now have time to post new stories and jokes

Don't worry Thomas, nobody picked you for their fantasy team.

Dear Tom the Surreal,

Don't listen to these scoundrels. I only said "Looks like Tom's out"

For what it's worth, your jokes can be sensationally bad, your ability to bet 3/4s of your stack and fold to a raise & your bouncebackability from 2 BB scenarios are legendary and tilting beyond measure :-) But I still like to see you round the place so I hope you re-consider.

I asked George about it and I know he wasn't sitting around pleased with himself, also a number of players, the likes of Johnny Vac, said fairly clearly that a customer should not be spoken to like that.

I take a slightly different line - if I was to hear you were described as "rude and ignorant". Rude is OK since it's a fact that you are sometimes rude, even if you don't make a habit of it. Ignorant is a value judgement and I think that's a bit out of line, but we all make mistakes and George is a good man.

I think a quick handshake should sort it

Anyway, I basically won the comp with over 80 runners as I was the best player there by far and I was hoping you would join me in my dream team (OK fantasy team as it aint gonna happen)

 Ahrt

Nirvana without doubt my favourite poster atm.

Mate, seriously. Do you think this is a good thing to say when someone is clearly upset? Proof that karma doesn't exist in poker. If it did, then you would have bubbled. Hope you feel your victory, and your reputation has been slightly tarnished. I feel it has.

Sounds pretty funny to me....i wasn't there though, if i had been i imagine i would have been pissing myself.

I think this thread probably merits a few more bracelet/WPT and soon to be triple crowners posting in it - thanks.

And Celtic, thanks met, your words have made me think about my comedy and vain pursuit of the applause from the cheap seats -  what a cock I can be !  Thanks for keeping it real. I need to be grounded before going back to back today.

I've got a lot of time for George and, like Claire, I have seen him handle difficult situations (and people) well.

I wasn't there to witness this situation, but I suspect it's a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other.

That said, and no matter what ones opinion is, or what the truth of the matter is, it can't ever be acceptable for a senior customer facing employee to verbally abuse a paying customer. Remember the 2 rules of customer service;

1. The customer is always right, and
2  When the customer is wrong, refer to rule 1.

I like Tom too  (though not usually his jokes). The real losers in this case are Tom for missing out on playing at a venue he's enjoyed for years, and of course the other regs (Tom's £3k would have been split c £300 to The G and c £2,700 into the prize pools we all share).  :)

I hope George reads this and finds it in himself to apologise.

If I was this George guy, I'd probably know what I said was out of line but probably wouldn't be apologising there and then because the customer seemed to demand it.

Would do it in my own time.

Back to back my arse, you went down HU to Rajesh, kick of the hair driers ffs.

I've read your post a couple of times China, and to be honest, I feel really sorry for you. It must have stung quite a lot to be called ignorant in this way, I can understand your upset, and can see why this must have led to you walking out of the casino after you bent your card and handed it in. Remember-it's the casino's loss, at the end of the day. In difficult times, and with competition between casinos, they must do everything they can to see that all customers are kept happy. If you try to get someone's attention, and they ignore you, you're quite right to keep on at them until they pay attention. You are, after all, the customer. If they disapprove of anything you say, even how you behave to someone else, they should bite their tongue. That's the mantra of all good businesses-'the customer is king'. People spend enough time in their lives having to put up with people not listening to them, or not taking their side, or openly criticizing them if they think they're in the wrong. At least they know that when they become the customer all of these behaviours should be suspended and the customer is more or less free to behave as they please.
I'm glad that in the modern age we can use the internet to right these wrongs. Maybe if more casino employees realise that we can embarrass them in front of an audience of their coworkers and clients, they will treat us all properly in the future, smiling at us and acting politely, even if in their heart of hearts they hate our guts.
The least this man can do is appolagise to you.

Unless it's to protect other customers or their staff - to say that the customer is always right and can do what they want is patently ridiculous.

There is usually good interaction between Luton G regs and staff with mutual Micky taking given and taken in the right spirit...... George's wit is quite dry and I can hear him saying this in dead pan jest.. however if meant and in front of people I'm afraid it is inexcusable.

Customers and staff  should have equal respect... no one, staff or customer should suffer over the line ridicule from the other and if one is out of line then they should be pulled aside and the matter settled.

I have sat there and cringed at some of the comments made to staff by regs and I feel for them as they sit and take it and i think staff ( as they have done ) should ask their manager to have a polite quiet word with the offender... but whatever the circumstance members of staff cannot talk to customers like that in front of others.. simply not on...

We all know Tom and his horrific jokes but tbh his a character and not a bad or vindictive bloke and if the facts are as presented then i think his been very poorly treated.

I will, once I am at home and able to make a response via a keyboard as opposed to a phone, make a full response to this topic.

At this point I feel that it is very much being portrayed as a one-sided incident. I am very laid back and professional on the whole and while I am inclined to agree that I could have handled this situation in a far better way, I am also very much misquoted at this point.

Never in doubt tbf

This all seems a bit OTT from an external point of view and a little unnecessary, but we all stomp out feet from time to time. I recall feeling besmirched after being substituted from a footie match once. I was playing well at the time and really didn't see why I should come off, especially when the manager never subbed his son who was having a stinker that day. I stormed back to the changing room, threw my shirt on the floor (dramatically, even though no one was watching) and gobbed in it. Gross, but if it hadn't been for my customary prematch dump, I probably would have left worse.

I was, however, only 13 at the time and acting composed was a little beyond me. I don't believe George's comment (if accurate) was professional, but seeing as you clearly like playing there, I don't think it's worth the nose/face spiting stuff. Just swallow your pride, be the bigger man and apologise for reacting how you did. As long as George is older than 13, I'm sure he'll reciprocate and apologise for his comment. A quick handshake, and you'll be back three-bet folding in no time. As for any post-drama applause or commentary, well, if people feel they need to have a laugh at your expense, then maybe you've been acting in a manner that people don't like and don't feel like offering you any sympathy. If not, then who cares, feck 'em.

Having said that, I did do rather well at my new team and was rarely subbed, even when I was playing bad because they believe I could still pull out a moment of magic from nowhere.

Either way, life's too short.

<3 <3 Snoopy xx

How far away do you live?

Excellent bump sov

lol

The Empire Strikes Back.

Far, far away in Pogueland nestled a wondrous gambling emporium in Dirty Old Town, where the locals delighted in playing games of chance with glistening treasure as the prize.

The Liege Lord that held these tournaments was a very wise man; his wisdom and patience were heralded throughout the Shires.

His diplomacy and tact was legendary, the games went well, and the gatherings grew    .......       safe in the knowledge that his Solomonic justice applied to all, and sundry.

There was one stain on Gorgeous George's character; he was the spawn of the Satanic Scotch (a violent tribe from the Northern Lands - that delighted in cross dressing, and eating deep fried Jelly Babies - who would sortie South in search of children's goalposts and lawn turves, as plunder, to decorate their daub & wattle homes).

Contestants would travel from the far corners of the Kingdom for these tests of mortal mental combat.

One such was Tom Bombardil, who would regularly hitch up his old horse and cart and make the long journey up from the hamlet of Snorebens.

A simple soul (spelling?), who was blissfully unaware that his own conduct, and dreadful etiquette, often irritated his fellow Noble Knight’s as much as the King’s dutiful servants.

Deviously he would often seize handfuls of gold with his play, and truly glowed with delight if he could slowly roll a victim into the abyss.

His Tales of Yore resulted in the mass importation of magical singing Apples from the Americas, that were so small they fitted perfectly into his opponents ears.

Tom felt it his duty to continually chide and correct the young Heralds, especially those new to the King’s service, and much grinding of the teeth was often  to be heard in his presence.

Gorgeous George’s patience finally wore thin when Tom demanded that a new Herald be banished from the Kingdom.

The Monarch pronounced that Tom was rude and ignorant and drove him from his Court - a merciful act, as the Mob were baying for him to be hung, drawn, and quartered.

His people rejoiced – was there ever such a wise King?

Tom Bombadil is never the bad guy LDO

Also coke is obviously a hell of a drug.

Luther is incred

so how  far away does the Liege Lord live

luther baby you may be right or you may be wrong ...but do you realy need to set every thing as if to song,let me clarify for the hard of clear thought...do you remember a guy called hitler...not sure if he played poker...heard he did a bit of gambling though ,lost a big game in a club called the bunker,...he didnt like certain people jews ,gypsies,comminists,homosexuals,and lastley the mentaley ill....easy solution ,get a bit of power ,make them outcasts...starting with ridicule,make them wear arm patches,then do away with them.....
he didnt start by putting people in camps  its a gradual proccess firstley ridicule people,and elavate his importance,then when you have the crowd on side pick on any one you like to the crowd will go along ....now im not for one momment suggesting that luton g casino ...spelt correctley...are as bad as the nazi party o hitler infamy...or that george the card room manager is a black shirt .....what i am standing up for is that a person in a position of authority has shot his mouth of and needs to be made to appoligise.....the management by not doing there duty are complicete,as were the generals in hitlers time.....onley the defense this time would be ...i was onley not giveing orders......

at least this time when some one acted like a bulley boy with his self appointed powers of class determination and uttered those most discriminateing words...you are the most ignorant person i have ever met in luton g casino...one voice said ..no..no...no...i will not go quietley into the night,no..no..no..you will not discriminate against you fellow man....no..no..no..i will be heard before you drag this sceptic isles into the abiss....

who knws generations from now outside every g casino there may be ...right in the enterrance..a bronce statuue of the one man who stood alone and cried out the warning against the rise of the bully boys in there black shirts...a bit like the sir matt busby statue i should think...with a nice worn golden bit on its head where 100 000s of people have affectionley patted it as a thank you


still no appoigy from george,probley too busy studieing maps of poland,

as a bit of light entertainment
i would suggest that the next twenty people that post on this toppic vote

either george is right ,and tom should stick to telling jokes

or

tom is right ,and george should put his mouth into reverse...




twenty people bothering to reply ,one of my better jokes....

Godwin rules

AKA "How to Post about Nazis & get away with it".

Here's how today's temporary Wiki "replacement" describes it.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

He might get away with it, but even evoking the subject on here is pretty risible

Perspective Tom, get some perspective.

"what i am standing up for is that a person in a position of authority has shot his mouth of and needs to be made to appoligise"


How much value is there in a forced apology?

We have a bronze statue already erected in Sheffield as our hero had stuck it to the man so often that he is now banned from every casino in the area. Barry Neville is our hero :)

Well I can definantly see why the cardroom manager did what he did after that last post!

wow.

[ ] genius

Complicetty is not an endearing trait..definantly !

Can't believe I missed this thread first time round!!

Actually I can because I was on holiday and most likely smashed!!

Anyway just wanted to say that "spontsgouse" is my new favourite word.

As you were.

Roffle

Or option C. George is right, and Tom should STOP telling jokes.

Just to add some balance, a LOT of people really like George. Just saying.

I think he does a good job, especially now his suits fit him...

Nobody should be "made to apologise".

They should be taught the error of their ways in order that they can realise their mistake and make a decision to apologise on their own behalf.

I'm afraid that if George feels he has done nothing wrong then he has nothing to apologise for.

What he did from my understanding was voice an opinion that Tom is "the most ignorant person he's ever met".

If that's true then fair enough who can argue with his opinion?

Voicing that opinion in a packed card room in his position as card room manager sounds like a bad thing and maybe he should realise that this was wrong and requires an apology?

At no point should he be 'made' to do it though.

He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.

Just saying.

lol wot?

Bit pissed off on George's behalf now tbh and not inclined to be as polite as I was when I posted before - that last post has way overstepped the mark, even if it was just one of your 'jokes'.  Tom, you are someone that occasionally makes comments that many people might describe as 'ignorant' (or any other number of adjectives).  George (the decent bloke, not the cardroom manager) was clearly pushed to the limit on this occasion.  Evilpie gets the 'should he apologise' bit spot on a couple of posts above imo.

I suspect it'll now go along the lines of 'i'll apologise for comparing george to hitler when he apologises for calling me ignorant'.

Looks like you'll get your 20 replies anyway - well done.

Old Greeky trying real hard not to unleash here.

Resist!

Think of steam engines, or buses.

Or even better, get that Diary re-started. You know it makes sense. Sometimes.

Dive in son, the water is warm  :D

I miss old Greekstein ;)

ha, nah. No point. Tikay's right.

Serves no purpose really.

Anyone with half a brain who reads this thread knows the score.

Greeky the Diplomat strikes again.

The thread ONLY makes sense, & it does make perfect sense, to those who know the two individuals involved. 

can anyone decither the votes cast to date, im sure im winning just want to know by how many votes....

If you are George you seem to be winning by a mile.

If you're winning, it'll be a Pyrrhic victory Tom.

A what?  ;djinn;

That'll be this chap. It's Pyrrhus, not, as some may think, Nirvana.

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Like Chompy stealing the league from SirPeeved

i would like to appoligise to any readers who were offended by my mentioning hitler and the nazi party i fulley accept that the pain and suffering caused by the secound world war is not a subject to be trivalised in this blog

Who made you say that?

I like the idea that perhaps in the future people who are actually debating Hitler and the holocaust will use this thread as a sort of reverse Godwin's law.  ChinaMug's law;  No matter how long people talk about Hitler someone will eventually regress back to ChinaMug's dismissal from Luton's G Casino.

I would also like to apologise if I have in anyway offended anyone.  Somehow.  Somewhere. Either here or over the rainbow.

I knew there was a reason I was going to fade this thread.

no one made me say it,its simple haveing tacken note of the comments regarding me useing ww2 references i decided i could and probley have caused offence to any one who had family that suffered in those dark events of the 1940s,so armed with that retrospective opinion i could keep quiete and hope people forget my lack of sesitivity,which would be like confirming that all the references are hunky doray and ok to use,regardless of peoples feelings......or as i chose i  can appoligise....
no strings attached,no attempt to win moral high ground,no haveing a dig at any one person ,its a appolagy...

I have been made to come here to apologise.

So Im sorry!

Wikipedia is back  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory)

screen name checks out

I lolled

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To save China Mug having to complain, I should point out he was not dismissed from G Luton, he left of his own volition. (Or as chompy might say, "he flounced out").

ffs, 'flounced' was coined by me. He stole it, after donks thought he would try and use it. Fenland Flouncer also my work for future reference.

pretty sure I used the f word to describe chompy's card-room departures before you ever did.  I'll give you 'fenland flouncer' though.

Hmmm, I used it to describe myself years ago at the casino, then sir Donks tried to nick it. Now you. Sigh.

Immitation is the highest compliment and all that.

China mug for mod.

Claw was first. After Chompy.

I feel I should point out here that I don't 'flounce' after being knocked out, merely walk to the exit in a calm, unflapped manner. My post-tournament manner is a lesson to us all imo.

yep...its ur twisted knickers that make u walk like that

Not surprised, after you have begged an equal 27 way chop whilst nursing your 1xBB stack, and then had the gall to ask to be listed as the winner.

#weallknowthetruth

in the abscence of any apoligy from gorgoise george ,or the management above him, and allso no contact from george via this medium to give his reasons as to why hes not appoligising .i can onley conclude he has had a ...luton g casino management gagging order placed upon him...
i suppose the top management have to look at the big picture....any thing that stops the smooth flow of business will cost money,and should some wag start a star rateing ...a bit like the mitchallin stars for restraunts ...onley for casinos  which excel in abuseing there customers ,the luton g casino could be said to be off to a flying start so far this year

as before i require a apoligy from george ,or his senior management and a assurance that the like of the insults that were aimed at me will not happen again....
if any one could assist with legal knowledge ..douse a card room manager telling a customer  ..you are the most ignorant person ive ever met in this casino ...as the customer is from a travelling family a few decades back ,will the abuse come under the heading of racialey motivated and would one of those no win no fee legal firms be suitable to get me my appoligy

to be fair i will this weekend put my commplaint in writeing to luton g ,and see if they wish to comment.....

Lol.

I cant help but feel you are helping prove  his point.

yep, that's the only possible conclusion

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I'm in Thailand now China Mug.

When I come back to the UK I look forward to seeing my family and friends.

I look forward to having meals cooked by my mum and my nan.

I look forward to playing football with my mates and going out after.

Now I'm also looking forward to going into the casino in Luton, seeing out this member of staff, and giving him a big hand shake.

Please stop posting.

This is a giant level _{tarmac drive} surely?

I'd use a spell check before sending if I were you..

#HopeThisHelps

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Whoever opens the post at the Luton G needs to be on a lookout for a letter written in green crayon.

Think he's more likely to eat the crayon than use it to write a letter.

We need to be careful that we don't become a mob here.....

By the looks of his post today, think he needs mob numbers posting before he gets the idea!

Yeah.

You know what I mean though...

Sigh.. when i grow up i wanna be as cool as the dawg xx

Chinese Mug - My Cats have been fighting other cats in my back yard, what would you advise me to do?

Go London Rams/Bucks!

Have you called the police?

Yes - they won't come
Tax Dollar No Help

And I won't support a London Franchise if the second word contains "Eagles", "Giants", or Englands Team "Cowboys"

Raiders?

Raiders back in LA IMO
But Raiders CBs not picking off Redskins QBs in Super Bowls please

i would imagine the best way to stop cats fighting in your back yard would be to ask them to appolagise for there behavour ,if they refuse take it up with the leader on duty that night ,if he delagates his duty post it on blonde so at least all your neigbours will know that you have been dissrespected by the cat s in question then at least other people will know that behind the everso frendley meowing face there is a coudnt give a basket of used cat litter reality thought proccess which boils down to ...keep giveing me bowls of milk and choice cut tiddles treats ,while i act as rudely as i choose...

And please solve the following
Washington Redskins
Sheffield Wednesday
Euro Zone Crisis
Help me loose 2 stone
Match 6 numbers in Weekly Lottery Comps (Thrice in a Row WBN)

washington redskins.....sorry im ignorant of any information on yank games

shefield wendsday.....ditto   .....but at least you are in the right country

euro zone crisis......deepen the english channel and widen on the french side

loseing two stone....easy ,tie a belt around your stomache as tight as you can ,crossing over just above the belly button....then tighten it 5 miliimetres each day until two stone weight loss is achieved

six winning lotterey numbers,again easy ,...im thuiking you threw this one in to test wheather im realy paying attention...the answer is buy 25 million tickets with every possible permutation and walla ...six winning numbers

.........
.......
heres a question for you ,who will appoligise first gorgouse george or the captain of a luxery cruise ship.

When a dispute descends into you writing riddles about meowing cats and lottery tickets maybe just apologising to gorgous george in the first place would have been easier dude.

Best diary on blonde although its a touch repetative

i agree about the cats thing ,its getting a bit like that eposode of big brother where some b list polittitian started meowing and drinking a saucer of milk....pretty boreing
i think i shall put energise into diarey insteed of seeking appoligy
on the bright side monies saved by not attending luton g are now estimated at 62 pounds and fifty pence,

so as long as there are no more queries on this blog ill stop posting here....
i just know some sicko wont be able to ressist haveing the last word....

fyp

Hello

Is this thread now closed

well it is closed...but if the onley reason no apoligy has come out of g casino luton might be that gorgouse gorge is stuck for the right words to fully express himself ,i think i shall invite helpful hints and assistance from all the blondetes to post here and suggest approperate wording for the apoligy so that it shows the depth and full feeling that onley a heart felt apoligy can convey........

but the consensus on blonde, to put it honestly without meaning to sound aggressive is that we like this George character and, yourself not so much.

China Mug was involved in a conversation once which included be the funniest line I think I've ever heard at a card table.

Tom and Steve Vladar are massive chip leaders just coming up the bubble in a £100 comp at Luton.

They proceeded to get all their chips in preflop.

Tom had KK and Vlad obv had AA.

Before the flop was dealt Tom offered his hand to Steve and said "Steve, if I don't win the tournament, I hope you do"

Quick as a flash Vlad replied "Tom, if I don't win the comp, I don't give a shit who wins."

Made me laugh anyways.

Hello Thomas btw. Luton wouldn't be the same without you. (Not suggesting you should go back, just saying it wouldn't be the same)

Vlad ONLY ever had Aces.

Quite a story, Vlad & Phan.

Last time I recall seeing you at the old Luton, Keith, was when you came 2nd (did business) to Thewy in the £1,000 Main Event there in about 2004, with Eric the Screw Barker in third. Eric is much missed. It got you out of it, as I recall, as you had been running bad for a while.

any plans to play at luton in the near future keith?

By coincidence, I was speaking to Vlad at DTD last week. He told me that poker is on the back burner for a while. Apparently real life has caught up with him.

Not if I can help it!

Maybe come down for the GUKPT in August.

Are all the old faces still there? John Rupin, Dick Lynch, Dougsie, Evil Edna, Gerry the rich guy (can't remember his surname), Templeman Travel and the guy who wned all the Arsenal shares (grrrrr what was his name) his wife had MS I think?

Rupin, Lynch, Dougsie all there, and all playing exactly the same way they did 15 years ago.

Edna in a category of her own, still there, still gets to the business end of proceedings as much as anyone else does.

Haven't seen Templeman in a long time

Don't know who Gerry is

Laurie Buttars? (Godolphin)

That's a name I'd forgotten.

hi keith i well remember the vlad story, actualey i think steve said ...if he didnt win he dousnt care who wins....too much of a gentleman to use the shit word....
another story you might remember is you and i were at a competition i think up north or maybe one of the sea side casinos...i as was my want at that time was getting plastered with beer and our table was full of newbie ...ive seen late night poker,im a student,i play in my mates home game ...type characters....any way being a bit loud and drunk whielst talking to you i asked you what odds you would give me to win the game with first place no deals....you considered the propersition ,looked at the score board 67 players left....well i reckon athe right odds would be 18 to 1 you said,ok ill have 50 quid on that i said getting my wallet out,....no you said ..im not interested in taking the bet,i thought you just wanted to know what the odds were lickley to be...o all right i said putting the money away....

the rest of the game whill i was on the newbies table i was able to rape and pilliage there chips as they now thought i was some poker star with talent and   18 to 1 odds to win the game...

happy days...big gerry was a good mate of dave lynches , i still have louds of photos i put into a collarge of all the old poker players ,i will investigate wheather i can scan and uploud them as a blast from the past...

1 st weedend of febuarey ....its d t d  time guaranteed to be a great poker game run proffessionley....and with the money saved by not wasting time entering inferrior poker clubs competitions,that will cover the petrol standing at a estimated 66 pounds and 32 pence
the 32 pence being what i would have put in the card room staff tip box ,based on a reward to service points system
so for a proffessionley run poker game with games that have   100k  price pools and card room managers that take care of there customers ...the place to be is  d t d .

Think it's a £150k prize pool :)

didnt make dtd ,bad wheather put me of,glad to see a good guy won ...next first of the month is 250 k guaranteed at dtd ...see you there

So much gold ITT

Great thread Dewi.

This really was peak blonde.

10 pages, but well worth a scroll.

Back in the day, if a thread ever looked like it was in danger of getting deleted, I'd set up email notifications so I wouldn't miss anything - quite surprised to get one such notification today.

I'm a bit concerned about the time it's taken George to get home.

Should do a Luton G blonde league reunion at some point imo. Hope all are well.

Going tomorrow with dean and Eso. Possibly a few others. Not sure it’s a reunion but you’re more than welcome to be anti railed.

Ooh I just might. Send me deets. Dealer dealt?

Missed that post Claw.

Comp was rubbish anyway. Nirvana turned up and was still in when I left around 11.30 despite insisting he would be out before the first break.

Lucky played cash with me and was telling me how he wasn’t lucky anymore. Couldn’t argue really as he was only around £500 up when I left.

Tom min cashed I believe and has access to his account again so he will posting an update soon.

Sicilian more or less bubbled and is now 0:4 in this comp.

Nirvana won the comp.

 ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;

Boom!  ;letsparty;

WP Glenn

Thanks people, so rare to play these days and even rarer for the time to be worthwhile. Double whammy as it was nice to catch up a bit with Vinni.

A couple of hours at the end, when down to 2 tables, was very enjoyable. But the 7 hours of tedium before that was my main take away - quite a while since I played for more than a couple of hours.

Wp wp Glenn

Nice job Glen  ;first;

FYP

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Congratulations to Dean Morris who has just won the GUKPT Luton Mini Main Event after a four way deal.
He dealt for £17,352 and then went on to win the trophy & an 888Poker Coventry Main Event seat worth £888!

Great news

I assume you're referring to the multi way chop?

Oi Oi!!

FFS I've got to go to Coventry now  :'(

Not the first time I will have been sent there  ;D ;D

Hello Tom,

I’ve found my way back to this subject after 14 years, and I’ve come to settle a wrong that has been outstanding for far too long - now that I am no longer bound to contractual clauses restricting my right of (further) reply on the subject.

Before I get to the important part - I want to preface my response by getting biographical and just sharing a bit of my experience.

* I joined Grosvenor Luton at 18.
* I did a year or two on the Tables, and then decided I’d agree to learn Poker as well because they needed help and hey, it was the height of the Poker boom and it was the place to be. (So I thought).
* From a career perspective, it was not a great prospect to be in Poker - your trajectory basically stops at running the Poker Room. The management couldn’t really care less about it, and most of them wished it wasn’t there.
* After a succession of failed Card Room Managers/Supervisors - I went to the GM, a 23 year old guy with hardly any experience in anything with a business plan I’d written up on word and said, “I honestly think I can make this work, here’s how I’ll do it and I want you to let me try.”
* Curse him. He gave me the job.

So that roughly gets us to 2011. I can’t remember exactly, I am sad to say, and even the incident in question is extremely hazy to mind. I definitely recall that whatever you said made me snap, and that’s an achievement in and of itself - but there’s not much else there recollection wise.

* Running G Luton was by far the hardest job that I have done, up until this point in my life. Not because it was the most difficult, or taxing - but because of the toxicity.
* In and amongst the group of people that we refer to as “Poker players” are some of the most vitriolic, abusive, unpleasant individuals you could hope to meet.
* This is not reflective of everyone. I met a lot of wonderful people through that journey - and I don’t regret a second of it. It was extremely effective in making me the resilient person that I am today.
* You are treated with contempt by the organisation. You are the least valued, least important people in the building. You get treated the same way by, a sadly significant portion, of the players.
* The hours are extremely long - and I, and others, were working 80+ hour weeks to try and ensure that games were kept open and people could rely on us to never close a game on them.
* I’ve never endured as much abuse, and I’m still working in Casinos, as I did in that job.
* We had a direct competitor that was able to operate in ways that we were prohibited from, and could pay dealers a far better salary - and it was really damn hard trying to keep that place manned for £6 per hour.
* The competitor was also pretty vicious and backhanded in social media - and we were never allowed the right of reply for corporate reasons. I still get annoyed, thinking back on it, that one of the regulars jumped on me at the one opportunity that I made a passive swipe back at them; even though he was probably right that I shouldn’t have stooped to doing it - the inconsistent treatment and expectations were somewhat stifling at times.Players expected the absolute world from you, and crucified you for every single thing that they could.
* Even some of the more reasonable people ended up being extremely horrible by the time that I had enough, and I begged Russell Tamplin to let me move into London because I had reached my limit.

So - I’ve said enough about that. I have a lot of fond memories, and I look back on the good times with a good deal of nostalgia. The bad, well, it was character building at least.

I don’t remember what you did, Tom. I remember that you were capable of boiling my blood with your endless barrage of criticisms, complaints and rude remarks. Not that you were unique in that respect - and it is a common theme for poker players to exploit those that they know cannot retaliate for fear of a repercussion.

People often say that the customer is always right, and it should never happen that a staff member behaves that way to a customer.

What I’ve practiced in my years in this industry since then is that I never allow those kind of customers to become right, because I show them the exit and I have no remorse about it. Albeit without the commentary.

Staff members don’t deserve to be insulted and when the line is clearer and the team members are protected from that kind of abuse - it is much less of a problem.

That being said - it was very much a part of the culture and it would be unfair to say that you were behaving that way because of your inherent character. Honestly, I can’t remember enough to be sure. I recollect that the whole room clapped at your exit - which probably gives some indication of what the collective opinion was.

I was wrong to say what I did, irrespective of whatever the trigger point was. Not because you didn’t deserve it - because quite frankly if you are able to make me snap, then you really must have deserved it - I am the calmest person I know. I was wrong to call you anything because I should have held myself to a higher standard. I should have just asked for the management to ask you to leave (they would have told me to fuck off).

The real reason that I am sorry is because you were not the worst offender, not by a long stretch, and you did not deserve to be embarrassed by me in front of the entire poker room.

And when I think back and try to remember exactly what I remember about Mr. T. M. is that I recall a man who was patient and instructional with me when I was brand new to poker, and was to all other new dealers that joined. A man that would always encourage us to do charity events - and be there to support them. A man that would put his hand in his pocket every time, whenever he heard someone was sick, or was leaving.
And that was a rare thing in that community, and your behaviour otherwise was just typical of the normal culture in that time - if perhaps a bit more effective at getting under my skin than most others.

So yes, I am sorry for what I did, Tom. I do hope you can forgive me.

Hi George, you wouldn't believe what a pickle I've been in trying to work out what it was I did and how to apologise.

Eventually I realised that I wasn't the Tom you were referring to.

Hope you are happy and well.

Tom.

Had to read the whole thing again for context, what japes we had in the olden days.

Just re-read the whole thread. What times they were, what characters we had.

And Chompy was right all along, Glenn IS a ****.

I just want everyone to remember that Glenn was bang out of order and I cringed when he made his remark.

What a ***** that Nirvana is.

I do apologise for the confusion! I suppose most people wouldn’t recognise Chinamug by name.

Given our meetings over the years, be that at Luton for blonde poker events or across the UK at various festivals - I find it extremely unlikely that you’re capable of behaving in a way that would require you to make an apology. You were, and I am sure you remain, a kind and gentle man.

I am well. As was mentioned on Chinamug’s blog - I am living in Singapore with my wife and son. We are incredibly happy and whilst I miss Luton daily, I have no intention on returning. 😅

I hope that everyone here remains well. I do check back now and again just to silently read and see what’s going on.

I was sorry to hear about Gavin. He was one of the good guys, for sure.

Papertits gets it right again.

Singapore, If you would have read the post he made 13 years later, you would know that.

Luton card room loved it, only card room in the country where the management fixed a puncture on my wheelchair while i lost money at PLO.
I blame all the trouble on Vinny he is a trouble maker.