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Should I be call on the river here or should I fold? Have I played the hand OK up until now, I don't have much info on my opponent as I had only just joined the table:-

PokerStars Game #73261240894:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2012/01/04 11:26:42 WET [2012/01/04 6:26:42 ET]
Table 'Renate IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ölfmeter ($21.07 in chips)
Seat 2: Rssvintorez ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Tha_Wiseguy0 ($25.41 in chips)
Seat 4: AAroddersA ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: peter8765 ($9.30 in chips)
Seat 6: jmvs75 ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: pokerst82 ($26.74 in chips)
Seat 8: 0458kk ($32.36 in chips)
Seat 9: appeltje1956 ($19.65 in chips)
Tha_Wiseguy0: posts small blind $0.10
AAroddersA: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AAroddersA [Kd 9d]
peter8765: folds
jmvs75: folds
pokerst82: calls $0.25
0458kk: folds
appeltje1956: folds
ölfmeter: calls $0.25
Rssvintorez: folds
Tha_Wiseguy0: folds
AAroddersA: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 8c 2s]
AAroddersA: bets $0.50
pokerst82: calls $0.50
ölfmeter: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Kh 8c 2s] [Jh]
AAroddersA: bets $1.80
pokerst82: folds
ölfmeter: calls $1.80
*** RIVER *** [Kh 8c 2s Jh] [8s]
AAroddersA: checks
ölfmeter: bets $4.30
AAroddersA: calls $4.30

Probably a fold, cant think he has much we beat that calls twice with. Stubborn 8x or bluffing us off a chop cos we chked river.

Awful river, just fold man. The flop and turn are so dry but I'd expect him to raise a set on the turn anyway, pretty much got you beat with an 8. Small chance he has a K but I'd expect a lot of fish to check back here. Presuming he is a fish because of stack size and limp 

Raise pre, then c-bet?

Call imo. If he's stationed two streets with just an 8 wp sir but i'd think it pretty unlikely. He can have K8 or 22 but meh, combos aren't many and we checked the river so i think we can call now and prob see some weird A high hand or bloof because he's basically obv a fish.

Hand seems wp.

Disagree at these stakes, plus more likely he has an 8 in his limp range, although there are two on the board, also two kings out. He could have something like 77 betting on the end because you checked, not sure about this tho

Its a super dry board so I think checking flop to try and pick up some value on the turn is best, you're never getting 3 streets of value right?. You bet the flop and get two callers, how likely is it that your hand is good here? so, as played, defo checking turn. Seems a strong  case of way ahead or way behind.

Defo fold to river bet, chopping at best.

I'm not sure I would raise pre Skippy. At this level presumably ppl just limp call? We don't wanna just unnecessarily bloat the pot oop 3way with a hand that can be dominated by the kt,kj, kqs they can be limp calling. I'd usually just check.

Flop bet out is standard. Would rarely check here (would need a specific reason to in other words).

I'd definitely check the turn as played. Proceed with caution being the best course of action.

River is a super standard fold imo.

What do I do if he then bets out say $2? Call with the intention of reassessing on the river? I am not bating much am I? Should I fold of that happens? It feels weak to do that?

Well with no reads whatsoever, I'm gonna be folding if the guy in the middle bets and calling if the guy in position bets (but maybe folding if he bets too big).
Reason being they've both called on K82r. I'm putting them on one of those cards.  If the guy in the middle has a worse K he'll be worried about it and prolly check. The guy on the end might bet a worse king on the turn cos he now thinks its good.

If the guy in the middle bets he's prolly got u beat - a better k or two pair.

I would just assume these guys are playing fairly straight forward in this spot, given its a limped, 3way dry board. Don't think anything funky is gonna be going on.

Totally agree with checking pre.

Re betting flop. If you propose to bet flop and check turn, what do you see as the benefts of that line over check flop bet turn?

I think at this level, that bet bet c/f is pretty much fine. People are playing fairly face up and they aren't going to be exploiting your line too hard

Yeah, I thought the calls was pretty bad, actually it is complete crap. Not sure why I needed to make a thread to work this one out actually *lol*

I might check flop, and if it checks through bet turn and river on most runouts. Leading flop seems fine, turn might depend on reads, river seems like a pretty trivial check/fold