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Satellite - Final 3

I have been very active - probably raised (X2) 8 out of the last 10 hands on Button/SB and also getting folds on the BB. Nothing shown down since we have gone to 3

1st and 2nd is the Seat/Torney Euros for 530 Euros 3rd is 107 Euros

€4.04+€0.40 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (20000/40000) - 2012/01/08 1:29:06 WET [2012/01/07 20:29:06 ET] Table '491880316 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: APPW (905304 in chips) Seat 3: DexDexter11 (308824 in chips) Seat 9: lendemain (312872 in chips)
APPW: posts the ante 4000
DexDexter11: posts the ante 4000
lendemain: posts the ante 4000
DexDexter11: posts small blind 20000
lendemain: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to APPW [As 8d]
APPW: raises 40000 to 80000
DexDexter11: raises 224824 to 304824 and is all-in
lendemain: folds

HERO?

Trivial Fold?

If calling, what with? (Super Tight?)

What stack size of Villian should I be calling with A rags?

Fold.  My calling range is kk+ let the othrer 2 fight it out. If he has 150k it is closer to a call IMO.
Let this one go and keep raising when unopened.

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What you should be doing (and should have done so far) is stepping away from the computer and blinding down until you have around 750,000 chips. Play AA, KK or QQ only.

There are 1,500,000 chips in play, which means as long as you can keep your stack above 750,000 chips, you can't possibly lose. 750,000 is the finish line. It's up to the two guys with 300,000 chips to fight for the seat amongst themselves. More chips to you are worthless. I know A8 is probably the best hand at the table 3 handed, but if you get called by 72o and he hits a 7, you are going to want to beat up your cat.

If you do blind down to near even stacks with the two shorties, then it's time to start playing hands again.

If you did decide you have a burning desire to make some chips with this hand, you need to OPEN JAM because a) Your opponents have <10bb. b) You need to use Sklansky's Gap Principle here. You need a better hand to call than you need to open raise, so if you jam, your opponents are going to struggle to call with even really good hands. If you min raise  then get jammed on, then the gap is reversed on you! You suddenly need a premium.

I would fold this spot pretty easily and continue min raising and let go with any resistance unless they keep doing it which is doubtful

Tightening up is not a good idea IMO

Trivial Fold Then (When he shoved probably behind anyway)

Not sure about blinding down - that is just over 2 orbits and then I am at 750,000

And NO Cat beating up from me!

Terrible advice about blinding down.  Just fold this and keep doing as you were.

Think its a trivial fold.

With regards to what stack size i call, im no expert but id call up to 100k.

What are the stack sizes?

just under 8 bigs each

Tbh you cant raise fold to 8bb stack sizes. Its terrible. Open shoving is pretty much the nuts with A8 here.

This.

Why are you raising from an 8bb stack?

Not raising from 8 BB - I have 22 BB

Sorry, my mistake I'm blind, just so used to seeing the stack sizes in a different format in a hand history.

Having looked properly, it's a really, really easy fold.

8bb effective so yes raise folding is beyond spewy

Obv in a normal tourney its a snap raise folding not too bad in this situation imo

Shove pre. Not even close.

As played it's an easy fold.

Why a shove pre when I have been raising X2 for the last 3 orbits?

I guess it isn't terrible if you snap call that hand. But its still bad.

however the stack sizes and blinds dictate that you need to remove any fold equity that the villains possess. Quite simply it is unexploitable to shove A8. However it is very exploitable to raise fold A8. Ask yourself iwhy you have played A8 as a pure bluff pre flop?

I didnt notice what your M was whem i first posted.

So what should I be doing?

Shoving AI a slightly tigher range OR liberal opening and folding unless I have JJ/AQ plus or small stack gets to 100k?

Also come on Wednesday!!!!!!

None of them options.  Shove and shove a hell of a lot wider than AQ/JJ plus. If you really are in a great spot to just crush the guy on your left into the ground 2/3 hands. Look up Nash ranges online and shove anyything that has 8+bb shoving range.

Looked up Nash Ranges and maybee I have misunderstood but Blind on Blind?

Got a Link? Chatban

Also is my A8 a Shove?

Icm wise this is an absolute dream situation to go mental with your shoving. Due to the similarty in stacks and the solitary prize jump they will have to have insane tight calling ranges vs you. I'd be shoving lots and grinding their stacks down as small as possible in relation to mine to ensure i lock up my own seat.

This will be useful in general http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hune.html

Don't raise 2x when your opponents have less than 10bb.

SAYS 20PLUS FOR A8
what is the 20 plus?

Yeah.  Buuuut take them with a tiny pinch of salt. It may be unexploitable to shove A8 for 20bbs but that is based on the assumption villain plays optimally too. Use it as a tool to see if you shove too tight/wide. Bet you are surprized no?!

If you really have min-raised 8 out of last 10 hands and both oppos have folded each time I would fold here and carry on 2xing it until the cows come home. I would only start jamming if they start 3bet jamming more frequently than this one time. Let them carry on playing terrible for as long as they want to imo.

People don't play optimally and neither do I!!!!!!!

Proabably best to have Raise/Folded

got my seat/500 as well (and one the night before)

Congrats on the score. Gl in the event if you play it